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Insight
Kapoor: Founders don't sell companies, companies get bought
“You don't really go sell a company, companies get bought.”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 16:56 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Disclosure
Kapoor: Sistema passed on Ninjacart due to high operational intensity
“Two companies that come to mind that we will, you know, we really liked, but for whatever reason ended up invest missing them at Sistema. one is, you know, Ninja Cart. I think they're doing something exceptional in the Agritech space. The supply chain that th…”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 50:33 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Opinion
Mid-Stage Funding in India Was an Underserved Market in 2016
“We looked at the landscape fairly deeply and realized that while early stage has a lot of established brands and late stage has a lot of capital in terms of Softbank and DSTs and all those guys. The real mid-stage of Series B and early Series C was still nasce…”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 11:51 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Assertion Supported
Kapoor: Qwikcilver held 80% to 90% of India's gift card market
“What Quicksilver had built through their managed services business was a solution that pretty much had monopolistic characteristics. They were 80, 90% of the market. They were powering gift card solutions for pretty much all the retailers, both offline and onl…”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 15:31 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Prediction Held up
Kapoor: Rebel Foods is on track to become India's next unicorn
“The company has attracted top tier institutional investors after a round, and yeah, it's on it's on a good track to be the next unicorn out of the country.”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 21:38 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Assertion Supported
Kapoor: Over 70% of Indians eat meat, mostly from unorganized wet markets
“Almost 90% of the meat is sold through local butchers or the wet market, and there is no focus on hygiene quality, a disease, et cetera, and there is also a taboo In terms of, you know, going to the local vet market and buying your meat. This in a country wher…”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 22:52 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Insight
Kapoor: Banks structurally cannot economically service small-ticket loans
“Banks structurally cannot give small ticket loans It just doesn't work out as an economic economically for them. So the alternative is a local money lender, but if you have a digital lender that can service you in the right economics and make the product profi…”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 27:55 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kapoor: 2020 will practically be a washout year for fintech lenders
“I think this year, for all practical purposes, will be a washout year.”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 28:48 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Opinion
Kapoor: Consumer finance distress is more severe than SME lending
“I think the consumer internet, consumer finance story is actually more severe than the SME finance story.”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 29:13 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kapoor: Netmeds Had Industry-Leading Margins via Full-Stack Distribution
“While they were running the e-pharmacy part of the business, they also had the distribution stack in place. And as a result of you know, managing both front-end retail and back-end distribution, Their margin structures were probably the most healthy in the ind…”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 33:34 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kapoor: Wooplr shut down after two term sheets fell through
“And they had two term sheets that fell through, so unfortunately for the company, it happened at the wrong time, and so the founders decided that, you know, given the capital this business would require to scale and the fact that the capital was not coming, it…”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 35:49 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Disclosure
Kapoor: Sistema targets K-12 tutoring and non-IIT-JEE test prep
“What we like is the K-twelve tutoring space which is still nascent, but you know, it is getting competitive. We like the coaching for entrance examination potentially not IITJE because that is fairly crowded, but other examinations bank PO, IAS, et cetera.”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 46:25 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Assertion Supported
Helion Led Azure Power Seed Round Prior to Its NYSE Listing
“We actually stepped up to lead the seed round in Azure Power, and over the, Journey of that investment, we attracted capital from investors like IFC and Foundation Capital and a bunch of DFIs. And eventually you know, over an eight, nine period journey with th…”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 5:53 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Disclosure
Sistema Asia Capital Writes $3M to $5M Initial First-Round Checks
“Our typical check sizes are between three to five million in the first round, and then we end up backing our companies up to 10, twelve million dollars. Over the life of the investment.”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 13:19 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Assertion Supported
Kapoor: Sistema Asia built a 10-company portfolio with one exit (Qwikcilver)
“Over these last four years, we've built a portfolio of about 10 companies. We've had one exit in the form of Quicksilver, but most of the investments we made were in 2017 and 18 timeframes.”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 13:33 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sistema Asia's LP Base Is 80% Sistema Group and 20% Indian HNIs
“80% of our LP base is Sistema Group, but the balance 20% is actually Indian high net worth individuals, so we were lucky to partner with about 25 high net worth individuals in India”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 13:59 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Assertion Supported
Kapoor: Qwikcilver reached nearly $1B throughput at time of exit
“At the point of exit they were, they had a throughput of almost a billion dollars which is all value of gift card solutions flowing through the systems that they built was about a billion dollars.”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 17:29 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wooplr Hit Contribution Margin Positive and Scaled to 30M in 12 Months
“They were contribution margin positive. They were scaling very nicely. They'd gone from literally two million to thirty million in a matter of a month, in a matter of 12 months.”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 35:20 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Assertion Supported
Kapoor: Former Cisco CEO John Chambers invested in and joined Uniphore board
“They managed to raise actually get John Chambers, ex CEO of Cisco on their on their cap table. He personally invested in that company and he's on the board and he's guiding the company pretty much on a regular basis.”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 40:36 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kapoor: Seclore is probably generating double-digit million ARR
“They are probably at a double digit ARR number at this moment.”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 43:09 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Disclosure
Kapoor: Sistema passed on Rupeek because the valuation became too expensive
“The other one you know, again is in the lending space, a company called rupee rupee. This is a gold, gold loan company, a very strong model, a very unique In their value proposition. very solid founder. we missed it the first time around. It came back to us,…”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 51:17 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sistema Asia Fund Was Built as an Institutional VC, Not a CVC
“Just to clarify system as venture fund was not a corporate venture fund. It was built and designed like a financial institution, financial VC.”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 8:54 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
Disclosure
Kapoor: Sistema previously avoided EdTech due to monetization and regulatory hurdles
“We've, like I said, we have been tracking the sector for a while and for the right reasons that you mentioned, we've also stayed away because we worried about monetization. We also worried about the fact that this is a fairly regulated sector. So higher ed is …”
Dhruv Kapoor Jun 21, 2020 ▶ 45:08 Understanding Exits and Investing in High Growth Startups with Dhruv Kapoor, Sistema Asia Capital
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