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Kamath: Cartesia is the only other player focused on real-time voice
“Right now, the only other player who's focused on real time is Cartesia.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 38:19 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kamath: Smallest AI has enough capital to reach $100M ARR
“Having said that, I still think the capital we have right now is enough to build a hundred million ARR company.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 52:03 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kamath: Voice AI will diverge and is definitely not winner-takes-all
“I think the markets will diverge at some point of time. Like so for example, 11 is sort of doubling down on the content space but the real time space, like mimicking how humans do conversations is, it's like a very different problem than mimicking how movies a…”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 48:12 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Opinion
Kamath: Indian language AI is an operational dataset problem, not scientific
“Indian languages for me was like just an operational problem to solve getting data sets, et cetera. But it was not a scientific enough problem that helps us answer what's like the next level of AI and that how can small models be the future, et cetera.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 16:34 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Opinion
Kamath: Only ~20 Indian companies can offer seven-figure enterprise deals
“There are probably 20 companies in India who can give us that kind of a deal size and they would spend an incredible amount of time and effort.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 31:33 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Opinion
Kamath: ElevenLabs is focused on content creation and dubbing, not real-time
“Like for example, 11 has a lot of focus on content creation and like dubbing. And if you want to build like an Instagram video or like a AI movie 11 would be a great player. We don't focus on content at all. We are focused on the real time space.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 38:02 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Assertion Supported
Kamath: Smallest AI's Pulse speech-to-text operates at 64ms latency
“So we have this amazing voice model that converts voice to text called pulse. It's a speech to text model runs in real time 64 milliseconds latency lot of other features like emotion detection, gender detection, bunch of other things, right?”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 1:02:43 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Disclosure
Kamath: Smallest AI reduced 3one4 Capital's $1M check to prevent dilution
“We asked them to reduce the check size. We said, we can't take one at six. It's like too much dilution for us. So we, I think we ended up at like some 500 or six or something.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 14:44 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Assertion Partly supported
Kamath: Smallest AI built sub-200ms real-time TTS before ElevenLabs
“11 Labs was completely into offline dubbing and things like that. They did not have a real time model, right? So we were one of the first people to build a real time text-to-speech that ran under 200 milliseconds.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 9:54 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Assertion Supported
Kamath: Cartesia relies on state space models, Smallest AI does not
“But they are heavily dependent on state space models and we don't train state space models.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 38:23 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Insight
Kamath: AI research hires take six months to show ROI
“Research gives you ROI in like six months. So you can't like hire someone right now and then expect, if you have goals for 2026, like in September, you have to get those people right now.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 45:43 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Disclosure
Kamath: Indian financial firm runs 100K+ daily debt calls on Smallest AI
“There is a financial services company based in India, which is doing large scale debt collections using us, like, you know, every day we are like at a 100,000 calls plus using that.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 56:09 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Disclosure
Kamath: Smallest AI generates between $1M and $2M in ARR
“It's between one to two million ARR.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 43:36 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kamath: Smallest AI signed a seven-figure US telecommunications enterprise deal
“It is converted to a seven figure multi-year multimillion deal. But we will announce it formally sometime like in April or so once we sort of clear a few things, but yeah, it is that like all of those things are in paper right now.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 29:08 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kamath: Smallest AI received an acquisition offer over $150M
“We got in between like an acquisition offer for like one 50 plus million dollars.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 32:13 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sierra Ventures issued Smallest AI a term sheet within one to two weeks
“From the time he was like, quote unquote, ready to raise to writing the, to giving him a term sheet. I mean, it was maybe a week, couple of weeks, something like that.”
Vignesh Ravikumar Apr 30, 2026 ▶ 17:33 Why "SaaS Apocalypse" is the Best Filter for Top 1% of Founders | Vignesh Ravikumar, Sierra Ventures
Disclosure
Kamath: Founder bootstrapped Smallest AI with $150K of his own money
“I put the first 101 50 K into smallest of my own. And we basically got like some GPUs and we started like training models.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 8:52 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Disclosure
Kamath: Smallest AI writes custom GPU kernels for NVIDIA hardware
“And we go right to the level of The NVIDIA architecture to even write our own kernels. So we are not scared of touching any part of the stack.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 1:08:39 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Kamath: Smallest AI raised $900K extension, totaling $1.8M
“We raised another 900 K extension at a higher valuation. And we had like 1.8 of which most of it was in the bank.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 19:55 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Disclosure
Kamath: US telephony firm records internal meetings with Smallest AI
“There is a telephony company that has all of their like meetings internal meetings, getting like recorded in the US using our voice models.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 56:25 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Disclosure
Kamath: Smallest AI closed Series A round with Seligman Ventures
“We closed the series A, we could call it a pre-series A, but like we closed with the Seligman Ventures.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 31:46 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Disclosure
Kamath: Smallest AI is working with ServiceNow
“For example service now, for example, Right. We are working with them.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 26:21 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Disclosure
Kamath: Smallest AI raised initial pre-seed checks at a $3M valuation
“Upsparks was like, not much like a hundred K if I am not wrong. Better was another two 50 or so. The total round was three 50 K and then couple of angels of 400 or something like that. This is at like a three million post money sort of around, right?”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 13:41 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Disclosure
Kamath: Smallest AI is building a predictive architecture for voice
“We are trying to build like a predictive view of voice and like conversations that we can have so that you can guess what the answer should be rather than How LLMs typically operate.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 41:06 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Assertion Supported
Kamath: AWS is an active reseller of Smallest AI
“AWS is an active reseller of smallest by the way.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 33:08 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kamath: Smallest AI cut TTS latency to sub-100ms by seed round
“So we had a text to speech model which basically you could use to give natural realistic voice to the voice agent in under a hundred milliseconds. So initially it was at 200 milliseconds. It came down to a hundred milliseconds by the time our seed round was th…”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 21:21 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Disclosure
Kamath: Smallest AI targets top 50 accounts via Palantir-style sales
“We are literally creating the like list of top 50 dream customers that we have and going aggressively through like a top down motion, a very targeted motion of how could we, you know, get them through a Palantir style approach.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 1:01:04 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Disclosure
Kamath: Smallest AI raised pre-seed funding from OpenAI personnel
“So some of our investors in like our pre-seed words from OpenAI as I spoke to them, they are building a different kind of intelligence.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 50:22 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
Disclosure
Kamath: Smallest AI achieves 100% margins via customer-managed VPC deployments
“We recommend it because for us it's a hundred percent margins, right? If that happens.”
Sudarshan Kamath Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 41:56 Where SMALL models will Win | Sudarshan kamath, Smallest ai
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