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Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jain: High probability customer service AI startup Sierra gets killed
“There's a very high chance Sierra will get killed.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jain: Sierra and Decagon's reported ARR is contracted, not deployed at scale
“And the reality of a lot of, in full reality, a lot of the so-called ARR that you see with some of these companies that you mentioned is actually contracted ARR. So none of this is ever actually deployed in production at scale. Find me one real customer from a…”
Insight
Jain: Indian SaaS startups cannot enter the US by just hiring reps
“And a lot of times what founders end up doing is they say, okay, it's so easy. I just hired two sales rep in the US. And I'm like, never, it's never, ever going to work because it's not just about your sales. Your entire company is meant and built For Indian n…”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jain: No Observe AI enterprise customers have reduced human headcount yet
“I've not seen reduction in customer service reps by any of our customers. And we have customers who have tens of thousands of agents. So we would be the first one to see the impact and the reality is nothing yet.”
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jain: Standalone voice AI is a commodity that won't make money
“Voice AI is commodity. That's not the future. No one is going to make money in the long run on just being a standalone, simple vanilla voice AI company. You have to build enterprise grade deep platforms.”
Disclosure
Jain: Observe AI stopped selling its legacy product to force a pivot
“We almost like, yeah, we stopped selling. We incentivize all of our sellers and marketing team to just focus on newer products. We still get demand for our older product, but we've also transformed that to agents. So now we are selling agents.”
Disclosure
Jain: Observe AI's only Indian customer ghosted a $500K contract
“We've ever, we only ever, ever sold to one Indian customer, and that's because it came from an investor, a mutual investor, a great brand in India public, they recently went public, so all, all amazing things. They were a customer very large customer, got it l…”
Insight
Jain: App software CEOs must master sales, marketing, product, and engineering
“Unless you are a deep infrastructure company where the CEO could be very, very technical, In an application stack company, the CEO needs to be a great marketer, great seller, great visionary, great product person, know about engineering, know about everything.…”
Opinion
Jain: Observe AI created the AI customer service market
“So in many ways, I think of we created this market. We created this awareness that AI in customer service is legit. It's going to happen. And then everyone followed”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Narayana: All seven funding rounds at Observe and Sanas were preempted
“And I think across Observe and Sanus, Every single round we've raised has been a preempted round. We've never prepared a data room, prepared for a formal fundraising process, and I think this is true across almost four different rounds at Observe and three dif…”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Observe AI reached over $50M in revenue before pivoting to AI agents
“So, I mean, I can't share the specific numbers, right? But it was not of fifty million dollars, right? So we reached a pretty significant scale selling our previous generation technology, previous generation software”
Insight
Jain: Selling software directly to BPOs fails because end-clients control tech stacks
“The end client is a decision maker. They decide what technology stack will be used, and BPO is just doing that. So trying to sell to a BPO doesn't make sense. You have to go to the end enterprise.”
Disclosure
Jain: I am running Observe AI in a wartime founder mode
“I'm almost running Observe and because it's Observe two point O in like a hard founder and a wartime mode, and also I would almost say like a seed to series A company. I'm not running this like a 250 people company or a series C mature scaled company.”
Opinion
Jain: Voice AI for customer service has a larger TAM than sales
“As I spend more, more time in there, I very quickly realized that it's not that big of a TAM and that world is ending very, very fast. On the other side, Sharath had spent a lot of time in Philippines in his previous job, so he convinced me that no, customer s…”
Disclosure
Jain: Observe AI spent 18 months replatforming into autonomous AI agents
“Now everyone is 2.2. We've been on the journey for a bit now. Right. So everybody is now observe 2.2. We took the older product, right. That we built completely replatformized it. It's now all agents and whatever new builds all agents anyway, sellers are all a…”
Disclosure
Narayana: Observe.ai and Sanas hit $5M ARR purely through founder-led sales
“I don't think we had a actual go-to-market rep for the first five million at either companies, right? As founders, we went and rolled up our sleeves and sold the first five million dollars.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Narayana: Observe.ai is at $40M+ ARR
“Yes, Observe is at 40 plus million in annual revenue”
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Narayana: Observe.ai hit $20M ARR with 50 customers before SoftBank investment
“March of 2019 is when we went to market and there was this great good story when zero to almost two two to almost seven, seven to almost 18 when SoftBank came in and invested at almost a billion dollar valuation. So three years of extraordinary growth. Our ave…”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Observe AI is growing 5x year-over-year after pivoting to AI agents
“And that's sort of the new observe two point or that we are seeing where we are going five X year on year going forward.”
Disclosure
Jain: Observe AI conducted layoffs and lost talent during its pivot
“As I said, as part of this process, right, we also, we had to let go quite a bit of people. But also, you know, the downside of this is a lot of good people also leave.”
What-if
Jain: I underestimated LLMs and should have pivoted a year earlier
“I feel like I was a little too late in the two point of transformation. Maybe we should have done a year earlier. So I could have done this sooner. I think I, Underestimated the power of LLMs and the power of where, where the very eyes going in general.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Narayana: Observe has 300+ India staff, Sanas reaching 200
“I think Observe today has over 300 people in India. Sanus is getting up to 200 people in India.”
Assertion Partly supported
Narayana: Observe.ai raised an $8M seed out of YC before demo day
“Before demo day, we actually raised, at that time, outside Justin Khan's big round, because it was, we raised the largest seed round out of YC. An eight million seed round was the largest seed round.”
Assertion Supported
Ahluwalia: Narayana co-founded two companies with $20M+ ARR and $500M+ valuations
“You are one of the very few founders that I know who has built like two companies, which are Make more than twenty million in revenues. Each one of them almost more than five hundred million in valuations in each of these companies.”