Nov 17, 2020 · 1h 25m · neon-show
What made Elon Musk approach former Tesla CIO Jay Vijayan twice in 12 months?
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In this 100x Entrepreneur Podcast interview, Tekion founder and CEO Jay Vijayan shares how his technical leadership at Oracle, VMware, and Tesla propelled him to build a multi-billion-dollar cloud platform modernizing automotive retail. He discusses solving complex industry bottlenecks, securing rival automakers as co-investors, and the core philosophies that drive high-performance entrepreneurship.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. How this is scored →
Siddhartha as informed peer 1.4 Guest teaching 4.1 Guest disagreement 0.6 Siddhartha pushing back 0.2
speaking balance: gold is Siddhartha, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 44:00 Rejection of AI replacing dealership personnel
Vijayan directly rejects the host's premise that Tekion's AI will automate dealership salespeople out of jobs, highlighting their hybrid virtual handshake model.
Hardest push from Siddhartha ▶ 44:00 Challenging job obsolescence via AIThe host directly confronts the guest on whether Tekion's automation is designed to eliminate dealership salesperson jobs within 3 to 5 years.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 16:25 The OEM chicken-and-egg certification barrierVijayan explains the structural deadlock of legacy OEM certification where OEMs refuse to speak to vendors without 100 dealers, while dealers cannot adopt non-certified software.
Siddhartha holds their own ▶ 55:30 Host traces Vijayan's career risk calculationsThe host displays deep familiarity with Vijayan's professional history, citing specific career moves from Oman to Oracle to VMware to quantify the risks taken.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Siddhartha as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Siddhartha pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| The Genesis and Founding Vision of Tekion | 1 | 5 | 0 | 0 | The host asks an open introductory question about Tekion's origins. Vijayan gives an expansive masterclass detailing his background at Oracle, VMware, and Tesla, breaking down the automotive sector's economic scale. | |
| Founding Tekion, Technical Complexity, and Series A | 2 | 5 | 1 | 0 | Ahluwalia prompts with an industry barrier observation, and Vijayan elaborates on building a complex ERP system in stealth while rejecting intrusive VC advice. | |
| Overcoming Automotive Inertia and the OEM Bottleneck | 0 | 6 | 1 | 0 | Vijayan delivers a sustained monologue explaining the massive chicken-and-egg regulatory barrier with legacy auto OEMs and how he confronted automotive leadership. | |
| Securing Strategic OEM Co-Investment in Series B and B-1 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | The host asks for specific funding round metrics and dates, gently correcting a year. Vijayan corrects the timeline (2018 not 2019) and shares how he orchestrated rival OEMs to co-lead the Series B. | |
| Launching Automotive Retail Cloud and Unicorn Valuation | 2 | 4 | 1 | 0 | Vijayan narrates building the full ERP platform against board skepticism and securing Advent's unicorn-valuation round, while Ahluwalia calculates the valuation step-up. | |
| Tekion's Operational Scale and Exponential Market Traction | 1 | 4 | 1 | 0 | Ahluwalia probes for confidential ARR metrics, which Vijayan politely declines to disclose precisely, instead providing aggregate platform scale metrics across 28 states. | |
| Eliminating Retail Friction for Modern Car Buyers | 1 | 5 | 0 | 0 | Vijayan explains the fragmented dealership software landscape, highlighting how disjointed systems cause hours of customer delays. | |
| Cost Savings, AI Personalization, and the Virtual Handshake | 2 | 5 | 2 | 2 | Ahluwalia raises the provocative thesis that AI will eliminate dealership sales jobs. Vijayan explicitly pushes back, explaining their hybrid virtual handshake model that supports human agents. | |
| Cultivating Inner Genius and an Open Learning Mindset | 1 | 4 | 2 | 0 | The host asks if Vijayan categorizes himself alongside geniuses like Elon Musk. Vijayan firmly reframes the question, asserting that everyone possesses an inner genius that needs tapping. | |
| Daily Habits, Breathwork, and Entrepreneurial Well-Being | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | Ahluwalia asks about daily routines, and Vijayan details his breathwork, Wim Hof practice, and nightly reading habits. | |
| The Philosophy of Growth and Leaving Comfort Zones | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0 | The host recaps Vijayan's career trajectory from Chennai to Tesla to ask what drives him. Vijayan delivers a philosophical reflection on breaking out of comfortable cocoons to avoid mental and professional atrophy. | |
| Why Elon Musk Re-Approached Jay Vijayan at Tesla | 2 | 4 | 1 | 0 | Ahluwalia references Vijayan's Forbes article regarding Musk recruiting him twice. Vijayan clarifies the exact sequence and details how Musk evaluated his Oracle patents and engineering background. | |
| Delivering Tesla's Core ERP in Three Months | 1 | 5 | 0 | 0 | The host asks about extreme work hours and sleeping in Tesla offices. Vijayan explains how he and his team accomplished the 'mission impossible' of deploying an ERP system in three months. | |
| Leadership Lessons from Elon Musk's First-Principles Approach | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0 | The host draws on his own entrepreneurial background to explore the emotional weight of public failures like SpaceX crashes. Vijayan discusses first-principles focus and radical resilience under immense scrutiny. | |
| Uniting Competing Automakers on Tekion's Cap Table | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | Ahluwalia praises Vijayan for aligning fiercely competitive auto manufacturers on the same cap table, and Vijayan highlights how shared industry pain validated the venture. | |
| Angel Investing Portfolio and Concluding Remarks | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Ahluwalia invites Vijayan to share his angel investing portfolio, wrapping up an amicable and respectful exchange. |
Statements from this episode (19)
Vijayan: VMware spent hundreds of millions of dollars on Oracle ERP
“They spent like hundreds of millions of dollars. It was a massive project. They had a failed project before, and after that I joined the second time to lead, to turn around the second time the same project was re-initiated and they named it as Project Phoenix.”
Vijayan: The US automotive ecosystem is a nearly $1 trillion annual market
“Automotive is four percent of US GDP. US GDP is 21 trillion dollars, and four percent is eight hundred and fifty billion dollars just in vehicle transactions, vehicle sales. And if you consider the entire ecosystem of automotive, it is almost a trillion dollar…”
Vijayan: Disrupting automotive ERP takes decades due to immense technical complexity
“There are so many things that could go wrong. That's why you won't see too many startups coming and disrupting in this space. It takes decades to disrupt any space like this.”
Vijayan: Tekion raised $10M Series A at $48M post-money valuation
“Series you know A was to be raised, ten million at around forty-eight million dollars post value.”
Vijayan: Lack of OEM integrations causes automotive retail startup failures
“For companies which had failed, I had seen that one of the biggest thing is not getting the OEM connection and integration and support on time.”
Vijayan: Tekion raised $22M Series B at ~$98M post-money valuation
“So Series B, let me think was 20 yeah, 22, yeah, I think it's twenty two million, if I'm right. We raised twenty two million Series B at 90 I think it was ninety-eight million posts in terms of valuation.”
Tekion reached unicorn valuation with $150 million Series C round
“We didn't share exactly what the valuation is, but it's, Significantly more than a billion. So we raised till a 150. So it's a very fantastic round in all, all aspects. We had all of our investors participate. We had some great new investors come in as well, l…”
Vijayan: Tekion reached double-digit ARR in 2020
“Until then the revenue was small but in 20, 20, it immediately jumped to almost it started going towards, and then now we are more in double digit ARR.”
Vijayan: Tekion platform transaction volume has crossed $350 million
“The transaction volume already on our platform crossed three hundred and fifty million dollars and continuing to rapidly grow.”
Vijayan: Tekion will grow at least 200% in 2021
“From a growth point of view, I see us growing from year over year in twenty-twenty-one at least 200% or more.”
Vijayan: US car buyers spend four to eight hours at dealerships
“In this industry, if you think about, if you take a dealer, when you walk into a dealer in the US, even if you have done all your homework and know exactly which car you're going to buy, they will make you sit anywhere between four to six to eight hours in the…”
Vijayan: Some US car dealerships pay almost $100,000 monthly in software costs
“Today, in dealerships in the US, they run 40, 50 different applications. They pay crazy amount of money. Some dealerships pay almost 100,000 dollars a month in software cost. Per, per dealership.”
Vijayan: Dealerships save $15,000 to $65,000 per month moving to Tekion
“There are dealerships that save anywhere between 15,000 to, you know, 65,000 dollars a month by moving to our platform, ok?”
Vijayan: AI in auto retail will create more jobs than it eliminates
“I don't see that we can, it can reduce you know, the number of people needed because the end of the day, it will create more jobs in different areas because You know, today we are just adding friction. If you think about Amazon, people can say, you know, it ha…”
Vijayan's wife lost sleep for six months after he resigned from Tesla
“My wife didn't sleep for six months when I left my job at Tesla, because how many, how much money I left, and people thought how much, you know, trust I established to deal on while it not, it was not working out that great for so many people I had in such a g…”
Vijayan: Elon Musk asked me to return to Tesla, but I declined
“I told this to Elon as well. And I said, I told him when I met him, he said Jay, what about, you know, potentially he was kind of indicating, can you kind of come back? But when I told him it is a bit boring for me. I said, I did what you wanted me to deliver.…”
Vijayan: Left VMware for Tesla taking an almost $100,000 base pay cut
“Still, I had to take a pay cut purely in a salary and bonus, because VMware had been a really solid salary and great bonus. And that really stopped almost 100,000 dollars just purely from salary cut perspective. And then on top of it, I had to leave stocks bec…”
Vijayan's team built Tesla's core ERP system in just three months
“The first mission impossible for me was building an ERP in three months. And I took, you know, I've known in my past life and Oracle and others, ERP implementation took, even at VMware, took a year to two years. It's a massive project with hundreds of millions…”