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Lemkin: Half of sales and marketing teams will be gone in two years

Jason Lemkin · How the smartest founders are winning in AI · Jun 4, 2025 · at 1:03:36

SaaStr founder Jason Lemkin discusses how AI automation is driving mass layoffs and reshaping enterprise tech workforce needs.

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“Half of our sales and marketing teams are going to be gone in two years.”

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