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Insight
Van Leeuwen: Unilever and Nestlé cannot launch scrappy startups
“This is why the Unilevers, the Nestle's cannot do what we did, you know, cannot Started even with all of the resources in the world. Like when you get big, your brain changes, you know, you're really good. You become good at running big organizations, but hard…”
Ben Van Leeuwen Jul 11, 2025 ▶ 12:48 How a summer job turned into a 2,000-person ice cream empire (Ben Van Leeuwen) | Masters of Scale
Insight
Van Leeuwen: Brick-and-mortar beats food trucks in revenue and ease
“You do brick and mortar because they do a lot more revenue and they're a lot easier to operate.”
Ben Van Leeuwen Jul 11, 2025 ▶ 21:39 How a summer job turned into a 2,000-person ice cream empire (Ben Van Leeuwen) | Masters of Scale
Disclosure
Van Leeuwen: Turned down offer to sell 15% for $250,000
“Before that, maybe a month or two before that, we had turned down an offer to sell 15% of the business for 250,000 dollars.”
Ben Van Leeuwen Jul 11, 2025 ▶ 27:28 How a summer job turned into a 2,000-person ice cream empire (Ben Van Leeuwen) | Masters of Scale
Opinion
Van Leeuwen: Standard Italian grocery stores match the fanciest American stores
“They don't really have fancy grocery stores there. Yet every grocery store is almost as fancy as the fanciest store in America.”
Ben Van Leeuwen Jul 11, 2025 ▶ 5:50 How a summer job turned into a 2,000-person ice cream empire (Ben Van Leeuwen) | Masters of Scale
Insight
Van Leeuwen: There are no 'foodies' in Italy, just Italians
“Cause I always say there's no foodies in Italy. It's just Italians.”
Ben Van Leeuwen Jul 11, 2025 ▶ 5:57 How a summer job turned into a 2,000-person ice cream empire (Ben Van Leeuwen) | Masters of Scale
Assertion Supported
Ben Van Leeuwen: Simple-ingredient ice cream naturally preserves without artificial additives
“You put it in the freezer, and it stays good for months or years. So we're like, whoa, you can make the best ice cream ever, and it's completely preservable. You don't need to add any weird stuff.”
Ben Van Leeuwen Jul 11, 2025 ▶ 8:55 How a summer job turned into a 2,000-person ice cream empire (Ben Van Leeuwen) | Masters of Scale
Disclosure
Van Leeuwen launched with $60,000 and two used eBay post office trucks
“So we tried to raise two 50, we only raised 60 and that was enough not to buy a new truck, because just the new truck before you turned it into an ice cream truck would have been 70,000. So we bought a used post office truck. Actually, we bought two. We starte…”
Ben Van Leeuwen Jul 11, 2025 ▶ 11:00 How a summer job turned into a 2,000-person ice cream empire (Ben Van Leeuwen) | Masters of Scale
Disclosure
Van Leeuwen expects 105 shops, 15,000 wholesale doors, and 2,000 employees
“So in 20, 25, we started with 70 corporate owned scoop shops. We'll open 35 this year. So we'll actually grow 50% on our scoop shop footprint this year. Wholesale is in 15,000 doors with over 50 SKUs. We, I think by July we'll hit about 2000 total team members…”
Ben Van Leeuwen Jul 11, 2025 ▶ 20:29 How a summer job turned into a 2,000-person ice cream empire (Ben Van Leeuwen) | Masters of Scale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Van Leeuwen: First Brooklyn shop matched daily truck revenue in three hours
“And that store in three hours had already done the revenue that, you know, our best truck location would do an entire day.”
Ben Van Leeuwen Jul 11, 2025 ▶ 22:24 How a summer job turned into a 2,000-person ice cream empire (Ben Van Leeuwen) | Masters of Scale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Van Leeuwen: Brick-and-mortar retail subsidized wholesale operations for years
“If we didn't have the brick and mortar, I don't know where we'd be because that has subsidized the wholesale business many, many years.”
Ben Van Leeuwen Jul 11, 2025 ▶ 25:21 How a summer job turned into a 2,000-person ice cream empire (Ben Van Leeuwen) | Masters of Scale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Van Leeuwen: Kraft Mac & Cheese ice cream generated 12B media impressions
“You know, it got, I think, twelve billion media impressions, whatever that means.”
Ben Van Leeuwen Jul 11, 2025 ▶ 29:50 How a summer job turned into a 2,000-person ice cream empire (Ben Van Leeuwen) | Masters of Scale
Disclosure
Corporate brands pay Van Leeuwen to develop custom collaboration flavors
“And we actually started partnering in a way with bigger brands. Where they would pay us to do flavors.”
Ben Van Leeuwen Jul 11, 2025 ▶ 30:04 How a summer job turned into a 2,000-person ice cream empire (Ben Van Leeuwen) | Masters of Scale
Prediction Open · timeframe Jul 2028
Ben Van Leeuwen anticipates reaching around 200 stores in 2-3 years
“Two, three years from now, we, I anticipate we'll be at around 200 stores.”
Ben Van Leeuwen Jul 11, 2025 ▶ 32:45 How a summer job turned into a 2,000-person ice cream empire (Ben Van Leeuwen) | Masters of Scale
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