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dbt CEO Tristan Handy: The modern data stack concept is dead

Tristan Handy · Future of The Modern Analytics Stack | Tristan Handy, CEO of dbt · Feb 22, 2024 · at 9:55

Tristan Handy, co-founder and CEO of dbt Labs, reflects on why the term 'modern data stack' has lost technical specificity and market relevance.

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“I don't think the modern data stack is a useful idea anymore.”

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