Tobie Morgan Hitchcock

Founder, SurrealDB · 1 appearance on the record.

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22statements → 11claims → 5claims resolved → 60%fully supported → 4.32/5average certainty → 2.23/5average debate potential → 4.3/5argument clarity · the sources → 6said about them ↓

3 supported 0 partly supported 2 contradicted 6 not checkable as stated how the 11 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

1 prediction · 10 assertions · 1 opinion · 6 insights · 2 disclosures · 2 what ifs · every statement was checked. The prediction and assertions are the 11 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 5 are resolved, and 6 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Tobie argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Hitchcock: SurrealDB runs embedded, single-node, or as a distributed cluster
“So SurrealDB can run as an embedded database, like SQLite. It can run as a single node, like Postgres. Or it can run as a distributed cluster, and you can scale the storage layer, and you can scale the compute layer.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 17:50 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB

Their most notable contradicted claim

Prediction Didn’t hold up
Hitchcock: SurrealDB will be the first database with multi-model time travel
“We will be the first database that enables you to time travel in your data in the different types of models that you can work with in SurrealDB.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 38:51 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB

Expressed certainty vs assessment result

none yet certainty 1
none yet certainty 2
none yet certainty 3
50% certainty 4
67% certainty 5

weighted support: a fully supported claim counts one, a partly supported claim counts half. Each filled bar is clickable and opens exactly those claims; "none yet" means nothing said at that certainty level has resolved yet

Argument clarity: do they answer the question? how? →

4.3 / 5 directness 4.8 · coherence 4.6 · precision 4.1 · compression 3.8

answered every one of 9 assessed questions directly

This is a score against a rubric. It is not a rank. Every host question → answer exchange is scored with names hidden on directness, coherence, precision and compression, 1–5 each, on meaning alone: disfluencies are ignored, and only raw unedited episodes count. This is the score that measures thought. Every scored exchange, scores shown → · The rubric and its checks →

How they sound: speaking style how? →

274 words/min while actually speaking · 14.7 um and uh per 1k words

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 7,535 words across 1 episode of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

Everything Tobie Morgan Hitchcock said on the MAD Podcast that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Prediction Didn’t hold up
Hitchcock: SurrealDB will be the first database with multi-model time travel
“We will be the first database that enables you to time travel in your data in the different types of models that you can work with in SurrealDB.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 38:51 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Opinion
Hitchcock: Firebase is a data platform, not a true database
“It's not really a database, it's what I would call a data platform or a data layer.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 5:21 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hitchcock developed the SurrealDB codebase alone over seven years
“So it's just one person, and it was seven years in the making,”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 6:30 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Insight
Hitchcock: Rewriting a database entirely in Rust beats incremental migration
“What you'll see with other databases is they then design parts of it in Rust, and then gradually more and more that becomes Rust over time, and maybe some of it doesn't, but it's much easier when you go forward from the basis of everything is built in Rust.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 12:23 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Insight
Hitchcock: Managing multiple specialized database backends degrades overall system performance
“And actually, if you're doing that, With three or four different database backends that can become incredibly complicated, The performance can degrade over time as well, or just be harder to reach because you're working with different platforms.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 26:10 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Insight
Hitchcock: Microservices simplify initial code but introduce massive systemic complexity
“Everyone built microservice-based architectures because that was the easiest thing to do. It meant that you could keep components of your code small, and you could, you build up your application from there. But it also led to a large, massive amount of complex…”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 31:28 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hitchcock: Most database startups focus on incremental fixes over reimagining architecture
“A lot of people, as I said at the very beginning, you know, a lot of organizations are focused on improving the performance of an analytical database, or reducing the cost of an analytical database, or adding some functionality to an alternative product that's…”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 44:07 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Insight
Graph data is the optimal way to query data going forward
“To be honest, I think graph data is really the way that we should be querying the data going forward. Ultimately, the world is not modeled according to tables or tabular data. It's modeled according to relationships and links between, between data.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Mar 28, 2023 ▶ 4:21 Not Just Another Cloud Database | SurrealDB Co-Founders Jaime & Tobie Morgan Hitchcock
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hitchcock: SurrealDB reduces developer costs by consolidating database types
“So CeruleDB is reimagining databases, so effectively the tool that people use to store data, and then once they've stored it, to query that data. The thing about CeruleDB is it makes it much simpler in terms of querying that data, and it means that you can Red…”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 2:10 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
What-if
Hitchcock: Traditional database engineers rarely rewrite backends from scratch
“If you were to have come from a database background, you probably wouldn't say, yup, we'll rewrite the entire database backend.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 7:03 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Assertion Contradicted
Hitchcock: No existing database was designed for historical temporal querying
“There's not a single, really a single database out there designed in that specific way to be able to do that”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 8:03 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Disclosure
Hitchcock: SurrealDB completely rewrote its original codebase from Golang to Rust
“And so, we made the decision to completely rewrite the entire codebase from Golang into Rust.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 11:57 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Assertion Supported
Hitchcock: SurrealDB runs embedded, single-node, or as a distributed cluster
“So SurrealDB can run as an embedded database, like SQLite. It can run as a single node, like Postgres. Or it can run as a distributed cluster, and you can scale the storage layer, and you can scale the compute layer.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 17:50 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hitchcock: Dedicated in-memory graph databases will always outpace multi-model engines
“If you're dealing with graph data that all sits inside memory and it's being stored in a graph data structure, then that's always going to be quicker on a graph database that is sitting on a single node.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 27:47 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Assertion Supported
Hitchcock: SurrealDB allows users to run AI models directly inside databases
“One of the pieces of functionality we have in CeruleeB is the ability to bring a model right inside the database so that you can run that model. It's a custom trade model or an off-the-shelf model. You can run that model right alongside your data.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 30:37 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hitchcock: Enterprises adopt SurrealDB for isolated problems, not to replace systems
“They're not coming to us and saying, I'm going to replace four different databases that I've spent the last 10 years implementing. It's usually being able to solve one problem to begin with, and that problem is usually that they're having to work with many dif…”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 33:25 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Disclosure
Hitchcock: SurrealDB avoids PostgreSQL limitations by not building on top of it
“We're not building on top of Postgres and therefore limited by what Postgres has to offer.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 43:35 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Insight
Hitchcock: Users expect new databases to immediately match twenty-year-old incumbents
“The outside world can love you and hate you at the same time. So they can love what you're building, but at the same time they expect you to be where a 20 year old database is in terms of functionality or performance, and I think sometimes people forget that t…”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 46:31 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Insight
Hitchcock: Technical startups cannot rely on engineering quality without brand identity
“In any organization, but also importantly in a startup as well, you can't just focus on the brand, or you can't just focus on the tech, you have to focus on both. For Surreal to be successful, we have to be an incredible technological product, and we have to h…”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 51:22 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Multi-level graph queries are extremely hard to run in MongoDB or SQL
“So this type of query in a relational database or something like MongoDB is going to be very hard to run. You've got a lot of joins and you've got very complicated queries.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Mar 28, 2023 ▶ 5:39 Not Just Another Cloud Database | SurrealDB Co-Founders Jaime & Tobie Morgan Hitchcock
Assertion Supported
Hitchcock: SurrealDB is built entirely in Rust
“CeruleDB, the entirety of CeruleDB is built in Rust.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 6:08 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB
What-if
Hitchcock: I would not have started SurrealDB knowing it takes ten years
“Probably not. Definitely not. No, definitely not.”
Tobie Morgan Hitchcock Oct 3, 2024 ▶ 9:21 Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB

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Building The Database That Can Do It All | Tobie Morgan Hitchcock, CEO of SurrealDB Oct 3, 2024 37m
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