Joe Reis

Co-Author, Fundamentals of Data Engineering · 1 appearance on the record.

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Joe Reis is the co-author of Fundamentals of Data Engineering and host of The Joe Reis Show. He previously co-founded the data engineering consultancy Ternary Data and creates educational courses on data and AI architectures.

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313 words/min while actually speaking · 36.8 um and uh per 1k words

No argument clarity score for Joe Reis: no usable question→answer exchanges on raw tape (a fair score needs 8+). We do not score a sample that small. Roundtable and news formats yield far fewer direct exchanges than interviews.

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 3,800 words across 1 episode of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

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Assertion Not checkable as stated

Reis: Data engineering paradigm is swinging back from ELT to ETL

“But what's interesting right now is the discussion is actually moving back to ETL. I, I'm starting to see more and more discussions about how ELT is a bad paradigm, and again, remember when I said talk about pendulums? The pendulum again is swinging back to ET…”

Joe Reis Oct 24, 2022 ▶ 29:33 Fundamentals of Data Engineering | Joe Reis and Matt Housley

Prediction Not checkable as stated

Reis predicts the data engineering job title will face title dilution

“You know, and in fact, I think, candidly, data engineering will suffer the same thing. It will happen. We write about this in the last chapter of our book, in the fact that data engineering as a title could morph into something else, but that's what titles do.”

Joe Reis Oct 24, 2022 ▶ 22:28 Fundamentals of Data Engineering | Joe Reis and Matt Housley

Insight

Reis: Aspiring data engineers must focus on rigorous software engineering skills

“If you're really good at the data part, then you got that covered, right? But what you probably lack is, like, rigorous software engineering skills. That's what I would focus on, hands down.”

Joe Reis Oct 24, 2022 ▶ 24:45 Fundamentals of Data Engineering | Joe Reis and Matt Housley

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Understanding Data Engineering in 2025 | Ben Rogojan, Seattle Data Guy Jan 23, 2025 · 2 mentions · from 7:04
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