Harrison Chase

Co-founder & CEO, LangChain · 1 appearance on the record.

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Harrison Chase created LangChain in October 2022 and leads the company in developing developer frameworks and tools for building LLM applications. Prior to founding LangChain, he served as Head of Machine Learning at Robust Intelligence and led machine learning engineering teams at Kensho Technologies.

23statements → 9claims → 2claims resolved → 3.87/5average certainty → 1.96/5average debate potential → 4.3/5argument clarity · the sources →

2 supported 0 partly supported 0 contradicted 7 not checkable as stated how the 9 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

3 predictions · 6 assertions · 9 insights · 5 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 9 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 2 are resolved, and 7 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Harrison argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Anthropic's Claude Code uses custom harness tools over model-level RL tools
“It doesn't actually use the tools that are RL into the model. So like anthropic models have some like file editing tools. They have a completely different set of tools in, in the actual harness.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 7:55 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain

Argument clarity: do they answer the question? how? →

4.3 / 5 directness 4.6 · coherence 4.5 · precision 4.1 · compression 3.8

answered every one of 12 assessed questions directly

This is a score against a rubric. It is not a rank. Every host question → answer exchange is scored with names hidden on directness, coherence, precision and compression, 1–5 each, on meaning alone: disfluencies are ignored, and only raw unedited episodes count. This is the score that measures thought. Every scored exchange, scores shown → · The rubric and its checks →

How they sound: speaking style how? →

305 words/min while actually speaking · 13.9 um and uh per 1k words

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 9,275 words across 1 episode of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

Everything Harrison Chase said on the MAD Podcast that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
Chase: Agent harnesses matter more for performance than underlying models
“I, the, so I don't know what happens, but I do know the harness is really, really important. Like, I think this is the thing that matters.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 8:10 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Chase: Basically all AI agents will write code
“You know, if agents never write any code, then okay, maybe they're not useful, but I think it's trending where Basically all agents will write code, so that's a very interesting piece, I think.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 28:46 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Assertion Supported
Anthropic's Claude Code uses custom harness tools over model-level RL tools
“It doesn't actually use the tools that are RL into the model. So like anthropic models have some like file editing tools. They have a completely different set of tools in, in the actual harness.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 7:55 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Disclosure
LangChain adds tools for AI agents to autonomously trigger context compaction
“One interesting thing there, actually, that we haven't yet released as of this recording, but will probably be released by the time it comes out, is we actually give the agent a tool to trigger its own compaction.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 22:01 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Harrison Chase: AI agents will evolve into synchronous interfaces orchestrating asynchronous sub-agents
“Like, I do think we'll get to a place where we have this kind of like synchronous conversational agent kicking off kind of like longer running asynchronous agents in the background.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 26:58 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Insight
Chase: AI builder differentiation lies in domain knowledge, not harness infrastructure
“I think a lot of the differentiation is in like the instructions and the tools and the skills and that basically, yeah, knowledge of how to do a process that you encode into natural language and give the agent and then the tools and the skills that you let it …”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 45:53 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Insight
Chase: High reliability AI agents require structured, graph-like scaffolding workflows
“So people ended up building scaffolding around the models to make them do things in a more predictable and reliable way. And that's why we at link chain, we built lane graph, which was another framework really aimed at that kind of like. Graph like workflows a…”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 2:56 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Chase: Major AI labs' RL focus on code makes coding agents perform best
“All the big model labs have been RL and code and bash and editing files into those models. And so that is the stuff that works the best.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 4:58 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Harrison Chase: Most current agent harnesses feature built-in sub-agents and skills
“Most harnesses today have sub agents built in. They have skills built in.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 9:16 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Insight
Chase: Human standard operating procedures should guide AI agent system prompts
“If you have a standard operating procedure for how a human should do things like that, that should influence a lot of what the system prompt is.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 10:22 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Insight
Harrison Chase: Modern AI agent harnesses don't strictly enforce execution plans
“And so now what most things do is they just have that plan in the text file, and the main agent can, like, use that to help guide its actions, but there's nothing that says I'm explicitly doing this step, or I'm explicitly doing another step.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 13:00 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Insight
Harrison Chase: Inter-agent communication is the hardest part of working with AI agents
“Communication is the hardest part of life, by the way, it's the hardest part of startups, hardest part of relationships, hardest part of working with agents is getting them to communicate.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 14:23 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Insight
Chase: Virtual file systems let LLMs manage their own context windows
“And the way that I think about a file system is it basically lets the LLM manage its own context window. So it can decide what to read from files.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 15:44 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Insight
Chase: AI agent context compaction must retain recent messages for flow
“You want to keep around like the last N messages, let's say the last like 10 or so messages, because if you compact everything, it actually like throws it off completely.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 21:03 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Chase: AI agents will clearly be long-running and stateful
“So I think, like, pretty clearly agents will be long-running and stateful, and so I think we have a deployments product. I think a lot of the I think deployments products that let you build long-running stateful things will be kind of, like, interesting no mat…”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 28:57 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Developers are buying Mac Minis as primitive physical sandboxes for AI agents
“That's why people are buying Mac minis as a, you know primitive way of sandboxing them and keeping them in a contained environment.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 30:49 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Assertion Not checkable as stated
LangChain sees a 50-50 split in how developers deploy agent sandboxes
“In practice, we see people doing about fifty-fifty between each of these.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 31:24 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Insight
Harrison Chase: AI evals and prompt optimization are closely tied, unlike memory
“I guess evals and prompt optimization are pretty closely tied, but like evals and memory are actually not at all tied.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 43:25 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Disclosure
Chase: LangChain does not maintain a one-year product roadmap
“I don't think we have a one year roadmap.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 44:57 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Disclosure
Chase: LangChain is debating building a separate harness for conversational agents
“We talk a bunch about this internally because we're debating whether we should build like a different type of agent harness for these types of agents.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 5:26 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Disclosure
LangChain's Deep Agents offloads large tool outputs into virtual files
“Is if you call a tool and it comes back with like 60,000 tokens, we don't show that all to the LLM because that's a ton of tokens. Rather, we actually put that in a file and then say, hey, here are the first like thousand tokens. If you want to read the rest, …”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 16:30 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Assertion Supported
Manus, Claude Code, and Deep Research share four core architectural primitives
“We saw Manus, we saw Cloud Code, we saw Deep Research, they all had these four things and we were like, okay, that's pretty common, let's put it into a Python package and make it easy for people to build their own versions of that.”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 18:24 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain
Disclosure
Chase: DeepAgents enables agent learning by editing procedural memory files
“So one of the things that we do in deep agents is we represent those all as files. And so the agent can update those as they go along so it can learn things. And so when we say agents kind of like can learn with deep agents, what that really means is it can mo…”
Harrison Chase Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 25:01 Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Everything Gets Rebuilt: The New AI Agent Stack | Harrison Chase, LangChain Mar 12, 2026 36m
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