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Guy Podjarny

Founder & CEO, Tessl · 1 appearance on the record.

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Guy Podjarny is the co-founder and Chairman of Snyk and the founder and CEO of Tessl. He previously co-founded Blaze, served as CTO at Akamai following its acquisition, and has invested in over 100 startups.

15statements → 4claims → 1claims resolved → 3.87/5average certainty → 2.13/5average debate potential → 4.4/5argument clarity · the sources →

1 supported 0 partly supported 0 contradicted 3 not checkable as stated how the 4 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

4 assertions · 2 opinions · 7 insights · 2 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 4 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 1 is resolved, and 3 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Guy argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Podjarny: Snyk raised roughly $350M over 12 to 18 months
“We did raise about three hundred and fifty million dollars during during that period of time as well.”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 2:08 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)

Argument clarity: do they answer the question? how? →

4.4 / 5 directness 4.8 · coherence 4.8 · precision 4.2 · compression 3.9

answered every one of 8 assessed questions directly

This is a score against a rubric. It is not a rank. Every host question → answer exchange is scored with names hidden on directness, coherence, precision and compression, 1–5 each, on meaning alone: disfluencies are ignored, and only raw unedited episodes count. This is the score that measures thought. Every scored exchange, scores shown → · The rubric and its checks →

How they sound: speaking style how? →

263 words/min while actually speaking · 55.7 um and uh per 1k words

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 5,114 words across 1 episode of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

Everything Guy Podjarny said on the MAD Podcast that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
Podjarny: Developer-first security requires building a developer tooling company
“To achieve that, you need to build a developer tooling company, not a security company.”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 2:53 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Insight
Podjarny: Security products require broad stack coverage to deliver real value
“A security person needs breadth. They need, if you solve the security threat, but you only solve it for 50% of my apps, you're not very helpful security. I'm going to need to buy another tool or find another solution for the other 50% because I need to cover a…”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 9:38 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Insight
Podjarny: Containers are the evolution of the app, not the VM
“The industry has been seeing containers as the evolution of the VM. And they've been trying to retrofit VM patching practices onto containers while we saw containers as the evolution of the app.”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 10:55 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Opinion
Podjarny: Traditional SAST security tools are not usable for developers
“Unless we can actually build something that is fast enough for CICD, which these tools are not. And that is accurate enough to actually be usable to developers, because as it stands, these tools are not usable for developers.”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 16:21 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Opinion
Tech giants rely on Snyk's vulnerability database due to lacking alternatives
“Many players rely on it now as their sort of information source for properties because there is no other good one really in the yeah.”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 21:16 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Insight
Guy Podjarny: Open source struggles with maintenance and vulnerability tracking
“Open source is not known for being very good at maintenance. So things like the vulnerability database and things like that. They don't really work that well in most cases”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 24:14 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Insight
Protect freemium growth from enterprise demands using structural resource isolation
“It became hard for someone leading both the product that growth aside and the enterprise motion to say, no, no, no, I will put aside this like very large customer's requirement. And I will prioritize this sort of freemium user. Need instead of that. So you hav…”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 29:02 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Insight
Podjarny: DevSecOps practitioners must be software builders, not passive auditors
“A DevSecOps person is very similar to an SRE. They should be a person able to build software build services and help developers successfully find issues and fix them as opposed to an auditor who should be good at finding those issues themselves and doing it.”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 30:18 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Podjarny: Snyk grew revenue and ARR by around 200%
“We've grown I think about 200% in, in revenue and sort of a similar number in, in ARR.”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 1:21 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Assertion Supported
Podjarny: Snyk raised roughly $350M over 12 to 18 months
“We did raise about three hundred and fifty million dollars during during that period of time as well.”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 2:08 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Insight
Podjarny: Security must be embedded in the development process to scale
“Security has to be built into the development process because nothing else scales.”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 2:43 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Guy Podjarny: GitHub is not open-source but gets its halo
“GitHub is not an open source company. It's but it benefits from the halo of open source.”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 23:53 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Podjarny: Snyk scaled staff annually from 23 to 450 employees
“We've gone from 23 to 84 to 250 to 450 people in annual increments in terms of staff.”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 0:31 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Disclosure
Snyk launches new products as narrow add-ons before making them standalone
“We ship every new product we've added, and now we do it intentionally... We ship it as an add-on first. So we don't ship, you know, crap products pardon my French here. You know, we ship very good products, but very narrow ones. And we ship them as add-ons. An…”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 11:23 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Disclosure
Podjarny: Majority of Snyk's business is freemium and inbound led
“The majority of our business is still freemium and inbound led.”
Guy Podjarny Feb 17, 2021 ▶ 25:49 Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Fireside Chat: Guy Podjarny (Founder & President, Snyk) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMar Feb 17, 2021 24m
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