Transformer

also referred to as: transformers

15 statements across 11 episodes · 7 bullish · 3 bearish · 11 people on the record · first statement Jan 22, 2020 by Clement Delangue · said 8 times in 5 episodes since 2015 · across every show →

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Jan 22, 2020 neutral
Assertion Supported
Delangue: Square powers its customer support chatbots using transformer models
“Square, for example, uses Transformers to power their customer support chatbots.”
Clement Delangue Jan 22, 2020 ▶ 12:23 NLP—The Most Important Field of ML // Clement Delangue, Hugging Face (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
Jan 22, 2020 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Delangue: Hugging Face built the most popular open-source NLP library
“We mostly known For having built the most popular open source NLP library, which is on GitHub, that is called Transformers.”
Clement Delangue Jan 22, 2020 ▶ 0:58 NLP—The Most Important Field of ML // Clement Delangue, Hugging Face (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
May 1, 2023 positive
What-if
Falcon: Modern generative AI would not exist without open-source research
“None of this wouldn't exist if Google hadn't put published transformers and put the paper out there, right? None of this would have existed if Ah, the attention stuff would have been out there if the Anno hadn't been created, if TensorFlow hadn't been created.”
William Falcon May 1, 2023 ▶ 17:37 Build and Deploy AI with Pytorch | Lightning AI Founder & CEO, William Falcon
Oct 10, 2024
What-if
Socher: Transformer results would take 10x compute and engineering with LSTMs
“Probably if it wasn't for transformers, it would have just been like 10 X more engineering and data needed to get to similar results, even with like past models like LSTMs and so on.”
Richard Socher Oct 10, 2024 ▶ 24:51 AGI, The Future of AI Agents And The Next Wave of Opportunities in AI | Richard Socher, CEO, You.com
Jun 5, 2025 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2030
Gomez: Discrete diffusion models will not replace the Transformer
“Now there are these discrete diffusion models, which do diffusion, which has been super popular for, like, image understanding, image generation. It's doing that same process for language models, but I still don't see that replacing the transformer.”
Aidan Gomez Jun 5, 2025 ▶ 15:23 Inside the Paper That Changed AI Forever - Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez on 2025 Agents
Jun 5, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gomez: Modern Transformers look strikingly similar to the original 2017 architecture
“And so one of the big shocks is how over the past eight years, how little things have changed. Like it, it's really surprising to me. That the Transformers we train today looks so similar to what was back then.”
Aidan Gomez Jun 5, 2025 ▶ 10:23 Inside the Paper That Changed AI Forever - Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez on 2025 Agents
Jun 5, 2025 neutral
Insight
Gomez: Hardware lock-in raises the bar to replace Transformer architectures
“They built so much infrastructure specialized to the transformer. And so it's like we dug ourselves into this. Well like we now have chips that are being optimized explicitly to that architecture. And so to move architecture, it requires so much effort, energy…”
Aidan Gomez Jun 5, 2025 ▶ 13:00 Inside the Paper That Changed AI Forever - Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez on 2025 Agents
Oct 2, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Douglas: Transformers successfully model any domain given sufficient data and compute
“I don't think that's true. I think we haven't yet really found anything that transformers haven't been able to model provided sufficient data and sufficient compute.”
Sholto Douglas Oct 2, 2025 ▶ 1:00:25 Sonnet 4.5 & the AI Plateau Myth — Sholto Douglas (Anthropic)
Nov 26, 2025 positive
Insight
Kaiser: Reasoning models are the second major milestone after Transformers
“One point was, of course, the Transformers when it started, but the other point was reasoning models.”
Łukasz Kaiser Nov 26, 2025 ▶ 3:53 What’s Next for AI? OpenAI’s Łukasz Kaiser (Transformer Co-Author)
Dec 18, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Bourgeau: Google and DeepMind are actively researching post-Transformer architectures
“I believe so. There's groups doing research on the model architecture side, for sure, within Google and within DeepMind”
Sebastien Bourgeau Dec 18, 2025 ▶ 10:38 ”We’re Ahead of Where I Thought We’d Be” — Gemini 3 & the Future of AI
Jan 15, 2026 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Izmailov: Transformer architectures will prove highly suboptimal for certain computational tasks
“At least for some tasks, I'm pretty confident that the transformers will be highly suboptimal.”
Pavel Izmailov Jan 15, 2026 ▶ 43:15 The Evaluators Are Being Evaluated — Pavel Izmailov (Anthropic/NYU)
Apr 2, 2026
Disclosure
Dehghani initially thought Google's Transformer architecture was random and would die
“And I was like, I don't know if I want to go with this team. It's just like, they're doing something random. Like who, like everybody's doing LST. I'm like, why should I go and work with like a group of people who are working on this like random architecture, …”
Mostafa Dehghani Apr 2, 2026 ▶ 35:23 AI is Already Building AI — Google DeepMind’s Mostafa Dehghani
Apr 2, 2026 positive
Insight
Unified Transformer architectures simplified the training of natively multimodal AI models
“Even if this is not, like, the only architecture that would be, like, in a multi-model, but it made it really simple to train these models, like, natively, because you have, like, a single architecture and you can have all the modalities in, during training.”
Mostafa Dehghani Apr 2, 2026 ▶ 43:32 AI is Already Building AI — Google DeepMind’s Mostafa Dehghani
Jul 2, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Catanzaro: Combining SSMs and transformers produces smarter AI models than either alone
“Using both of these together was actually better than using either one on their own. And that is independent of the speed benefit. That is just the model is smarter.”
Bryan Catanzaro Jul 2, 2026 ▶ 41:10 Inside Nemotron & NVIDIA’s AI Lab | Bryan Catanzaro
Jul 16, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Katti: Turbine and transformer manufacturers face multi-year lead times to expand capacity
“Those industries have historically have not added much capacity for the last decade or so ago, and they've suddenly experienced a demand shock. And it takes years before you can add capacity to produce more turbines and transformers.”
Sachin Katti Jul 16, 2026 ▶ 39:18 OpenAI’s Compute Chief: We Can’t Build Fast Enough | Sachin Katti
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