open source models

also referred to as: open source model · open-source models

7 statements across 4 episodes · 3 bullish · 2 bearish · 4 people on the record · first statement Nov 1, 2023 by Aravind Srinivas · across every show →

Everything said about open source models, oldest first

Nov 1, 2023 negative
Assertion Supported
Srinivas: Open-source AI models do not match closed-source model capabilities
“That needs the open source models or fine tuned versions of them to match the closed source, the closed ones. And That's not the case today.”
Aravind Srinivas Nov 1, 2023 ▶ 45:54 Perplexity AI CEO on Dethroning Google & Redefining Search
Nov 1, 2023 neutral
Disclosure
Perplexity CEO: Perplexity won't train open-source models, will serve them
“We are not the ones building these open source models because that requires a lot more capital. But we want to, like, make sure anybody can access them easily. So we are democratizing the access to them through our APIs, through our labs, and, like, you can co…”
Aravind Srinivas Nov 1, 2023 ▶ 37:10 Perplexity AI CEO on Dethroning Google & Redefining Search
Nov 1, 2023 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Srinivas: Self-hosting open-source LLMs is more expensive than closed-source APIs
“Even if there exists a checkpoint today, that's as good as the close models. It's still not an incentive to use them and serve them yourself because you're going to burn more money than paying for the close ones because the close ones are being served in such …”
Aravind Srinivas Nov 1, 2023 ▶ 46:08 Perplexity AI CEO on Dethroning Google & Redefining Search
Jan 16, 2025
Insight
Open-source AI developers lack usage visibility to ensure model safety
“Open source model developers try their best to make the models, like, safe as well, right? But they also have less visibilities into how the open source models are being used. So which gives them like less information for them to like make the model safe.”
Chip Huyen Jan 16, 2025 ▶ 54:41 What You MUST Know About AI Engineering | Chip Huyen, Author of “AI Engineering”
Apr 17, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Levie: Box supports open-source models for select unannounced customers
“Yes for a couple of particular customers that we just haven't announced yet, but, you know, coming soon.”
Aaron Levie Apr 17, 2025 ▶ 46:09 Box’s Big AI Leap: Aaron Levie on Agents & the Future of Work
Aug 6, 2026 positive
Insight
Wolf: Local Hosting of Open-Source Models Drives AI Sovereignty
“In OpenSoup Mobile, you can download it. Nobody can, like no country could take it out from you once you download it. You can find it yourself. If you operate it on, on your data center, like local ground data center, I feel like you start to have the beginnin…”
Thomas Wolf Aug 6, 2026 ▶ 42:54 “OpenAI’s Model Hacked Us” - Hugging Face’s Thomas Wolf
Aug 6, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wolf: Existing Open-Source Models Perform Near the Claude Opus Tier
“We don't have any mythos level open source model for sure, but we definitely have models that are not super far from the opus category or depending also it's more spiky.”
Thomas Wolf Aug 6, 2026 ▶ 33:10 “OpenAI’s Model Hacked Us” - Hugging Face’s Thomas Wolf
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