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Scott Wu predicts humans will soon stop interacting directly with code
“We're not always, I mean, we're not gonna be interacting with code for that much longer, you know, or programs might not be the right, like level of abstraction, but I think what is always true probably is that it will be the human computer interface.”
Scott Wu confirms initial Devin launch videos were real, unstaged runs
“All of those like demos that we showed, you know, in, in, in our launch announcement were like actual runs of Devon that we had done ourselves and like run into and been like, holy shit, this is insane.”
Devin scored 13 percent on SWE-bench against a 3 percent baseline
“At the time the best known was like Three or four percent or something like that, but obviously, yeah, 13% still means you fail, you know, 87% of the time.”
Devin dynamically routes tasks across OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, and internal models
“Devin, rather than being pegged to one model and saying, oh, we're only going to serve you GPT for this, or we're only going to serve you OPFIS for this, Devin can use any of the different models it has in its arsenal, which include all of these models from An…”
Cognition ignores individual hobbyists to focus on production engineering teams
“And so, so we don't focus at all on like, you know, individual hobbyists who are just like trying to make a cool thing or something like that. We focus on like, Real teams who are building real products that they want people to use and getting output out of th…”
Cognition's first commercial success was an enterprise migration for Nubank
“Our first success ended up being with a company called Nubank, biggest bank in Brazil, you know, by market cap at the time, and the use case was like one of these big migrations, and we had a kind of a custom Devon that was like extremely, extremely optimized …”