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Disclosure
Hostplus demands intrusive personal financial details from prospective fund managers
“How much money do you earn? How many kids do you have? What schools do they go to? What are the school fees like? At what stage are you at? What car do you drive? Is it mortgaged? There's a whole set of, you have a right not to answer those questions, but you'…”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 53:25 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Disclosure
Hostplus allocates 0% to fixed income, opting for unlisted assets instead
“53% of our strategic asset allocation is public equities, listed equities. It's a combination of domestic equities and international equities developed markets and international equities emerging markets. 53% in total. The other 47% is unlisted infrastructure,…”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 27:01 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Insight
Hostplus uses hedge funds as crisis liquidity, not for volatility protection
“So we view hedge funds playing that role rather than protecting the portfolio from The volatility of equity markets. Our unlisted assets have that role.”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 1:07:27 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Insight
Traditional pension models are mathematically broken by multi-decade retirement lifespans
“The real issue is that pension funds were designed at times when people retired at age 65 and conveniently died at age 68. Today, people retire at 65 or 70 and live to a 108. How are you going to survive 30 or 40 years not working, not generating an income, li…”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 37:51 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Disclosure
Sicilia: Hostplus invests in specific individuals rather than brand-name asset managers
“In fact, if you look at Host Plus's website, you won't see too many brand names across any asset class, because we don't invest in brands We invest in individuals.”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 41:12 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Insight
Sicilia: Performance should never be the reason to exit an investment
“If you know why you make an investment, then you have a ready-made reason to get out of it if that reason changes. Performance is never one of them.”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 41:41 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Insight
Sicilia: Boutique, hungry investment managers bearing business risk outperform
“Boutique is better. Hungry is better. Having a business risk is better.”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 1:00:13 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Opinion
Sicilia: Asset management fees should plateau rather than increase linearly
“How do you justify the fact that if you're managing a bond portfolio or an equities portfolio and you're trading, that the fee goes up in a linear way, more or less, if I give you five hundred million or a billion or three billion? Surely it should plateau At …”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 1:18:54 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Insight
Sicilia: Relationships drive 95% of private equity investing success
“And in some asset classes, like private equity in general, or private markets, but private equity in particular, without a relationship, we won't do the investment. Relationships are 95% of the driving force. People underestimate how important relationships ar…”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 43:41 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Insight
Sicilia: Allocators should resist deploying capital into 6% infrastructure returns
“So the temptation to invest in infrastructure assets that are generating six percent returns, therefore diluting your portfolio return, Is huge. But you should resist that temptation. That is not a good idea to go down that path. It's better to find some other…”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 35:06 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Disclosure
Hostplus uses a 4-director subcommittee for agile co-investment approvals
“Internally, the board has formed a small subcommittee of four directors, which we call the SIG, the Special Investment Group, and they can be called on demand On a deal by deal basis. And they can get together and work with the internal team and have a delegat…”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 1:11:56 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Disclosure
Hostplus board makes all investment decisions, acting as a jury
“The board makes all investment decisions. Our job is to work with Jana, our asset consultant. And prepare the case, if you like. Think of the board like a jury.”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 1:09:11 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Sicilia: Hostplus placed top-quartile in 16 of past 20 years
“So over the last 20 financial years, Host Plus has been top quartile in 16 of them.”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 19:02 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Assertion Supported
Sicilia: Hostplus committed $1.2B to VC, largest among Australian super funds
“Including Hostplus putting 1.2 billion dollars into venture capital, which makes Hostplus the biggest Australian institutional investor super fund in venture capital by a long shot”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 47:32 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Disclosure
Hostplus outsources all $42B in asset management with 18 investment staff
“The investment staff is currently 18 people, but we do not manage any money in-house. At this point in time, we prefer to outsource all money management”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 13:02 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Assertion Supported
Sicilia: Hospitality and Retail Funds Capture Half of First-Time Workers
“About half of the first time job entrance belong to those two funds, and every other super fund in the country gets the other half.”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 15:48 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Assertion Supported
Sicilia: Industry super funds collectively own asset managers IFM and ISPT
“We own two asset management firms. So, 20 or so industry funds, and almost 30 or so industry funds own IFM, Industry Fund Management Advisors, or IFM Advisors, and who does infrastructure globally, and another entity, ISPT, Industry Super Property Trust, who d…”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 25:49 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Assertion Supported
Sicilia: Hostplus Serves 1.2M Members with Average Age of 34
“We have a 180,000 contributing employers and 1.2 million members. Average age, 34.”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 14:32 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hostplus has never lost a frontline investment professional in its history
“In the frontline investment people, operations has had, you'd expect to have some turnover in the operations, but we've never lost an investment person. It's been cumulative, but it's never gone the other way.”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 1:15:35 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Disclosure
Sicilia: Hostplus return target is inflation plus 4% over 20 years
“So for Host Plus, our return objectives are inflation plus four percent per annum over 20 year periods.”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 19:56 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Insight
Sicilia: Poor operational execution and vehicle structuring leaves money on the table
“You can leave money on the table by not implementing Investments properly, by not implementing board decisions properly, by not structuring vehicles properly, by not taking into account tax and other obligations that we have, FX, settlements, et cetera, proper…”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 1:07:55 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
Assertion Partly supported
Sicilia: Hostplus has grown to $42B in assets
“Today, Host Plus is forty two billion dollars in size, and so you can see that over a short 10 year period, that growth has been Remarkable.”
Sam Sicilia Jul 1, 2019 ▶ 12:30 Sam Sicilia – Seizing on a Long Time Horizon at HostPlus (EP.103)
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