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CalSTRS Runs Internal Strategies at One-Tenth the Cost of Wall Street

Chris Ailman · Chris Ailman – CalSTRS' Venerable CIO (Capital Allocators, EP.86) · Feb 11, 2019 · at 28:17

Chris Ailman, CIO of CalSTRS, argues that building internal asset management capabilities allows the pension fund to achieve dramatic fee savings compared to Wall Street managers.

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“Frankly, we can run money at one-tenth the cost of hiring somebody here on Wall Street to do the same thing”

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The claim, plainly

CalSTRS can manage portfolio assets internally at one-tenth the cost of hiring Wall Street external managers.

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Assessment

CalSTRS investment expense reporting validates Chris Ailman's (then-CIO of CalSTRS) statement. Specifically, CalSTRS's 2021 Annual Investment Cost Report (presented to the board in November 2022) revealed that internally managed public market assets cost 3 basis points (0.03%), compared to 48 basis points (0.48%) for externally managed public assets—meaning internal execution ran at roughly 1/16th (or ~6.25%) of external management costs. The 2020 report similarly documented internal costs at approximately 4 basis points against much higher external fees, meeting and exceeding the one-tenth cost benchmark.

CalSTRS 2021 Annual Investment Cost Report: Internally managed public market assets cost 3 bps (0.03%) versus 48 bps (0.48%) for externally managed public assets.
CalSTRS 2020 Annual Investment Cost Report: Internally managed public assets ran at approximately 4 bps (0.04%).
CEM Benchmarking multi-year data consistently documented large pension funds operating internal capabilities at a fraction of external Wall Street fee structures (8 bps internal vs. 48 bps external average across peers).

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