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NewView underwrites growth investments to 3x to 5x returns

Ravi Viswanathan · Ravi Viswanathan – Venture Secondaries and Growth Capital at NewView (EP.327) · Jul 13, 2023 · at 24:43

Ravi Viswanathan, founder of NewView Capital, discusses how NewView constructs its risk-reward profile in growth investing compared to early-stage venture power-law investing.

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“You underwrite to a three to five X. You have a lower loss ratio to compensate. Maybe the upside isn't as a true power law early stage franchise.”

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