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Delta's Pension Was America's Worst-Funded in 2011 With $14B Shortfall

Jon Glidden · Jon Glidden - Delta Airlines Pension Fund Turnaround (EP.417) · Nov 18, 2024 · at 18:03

Jon Glidden, CIO of Delta Air Lines, details the severe financial distress and underfunding of Delta's defined benefit pension fund when he was recruited to lead it in 2011.

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“The pension today is sixteen billion. Back in those days, the pension was more like seven billion, and it was fourteen billion underfunded on a company with a market cap of seven billion dollars. Funded status was hovering in the upper thirties, low forties, so it was the worst funded major pension plan in America.”

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The claim, plainly

When Jon Glidden was recruited to Delta Air Lines around 2011, Delta's pension fund held $7 billion in assets, was $14 billion underfunded against a $7 billion corporate market cap, and had a funded status in the upper 30% to low 40% range as the worst-funded major corporate pension in the United States.

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Assessment

All five components of Jon Glidden's statement regarding Delta Air Lines' defined benefit pension situation circa 2011 are supported by historical financial records and pension benchmark reports. When Glidden joined Delta as Managing Director/CIO of Pension Investments in 2011, Delta's pension plan assets were approximately $7.5 billion against a projected benefit obligation (PBO) of approximately $21 billion, resulting in an unfunded liability of $13 billion to $14 billion. Delta's corporate market capitalization at year-end 2011 was approximately $6.85 billion (~$7 billion). The funded ratio was 40.4% in 2011 and 38.1% in 2012 (fitting the 'upper thirties, low forties' range), which the Milliman 100 Pension Funding Study ranked as the lowest funded status among the 100 largest U.S. corporate defined benefit plans.

Jon Glidden joined Delta Air Lines in 2011 to lead pension investments.
Circa 2011, Delta's defined benefit plan assets stood at ~$7.5 billion against a ~$21 billion PBO, leaving an underfunded status of ~$13 billion to $14 billion.
Delta's equity market capitalization was approximately $6.85 billion at the end of 2011.
The Milliman 100 Pension Funding Study recorded Delta's funded ratio at 40.4% at year-end 2011 and 38.1% at year-end 2012, ranking it as the lowest funded ratio among the top 100 major U.S. corporate pension plans.

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