Andy Lee, founder and CIO of Parallaxes Capital, discusses the growth in market size for tax receivable agreements (TRAs) with host Ted Seides.
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“In 2017, the market opportunity was, call it, seven billion dollars on the back of euphoric equity markets, and more importantly, adoption by private equity sponsors. That number is now closer to thirty billion dollars.”
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