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Thome: WARF still carries its original 1925 $900 as paid-in capital

Carrie Thome · Carrie Thome – Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained at WARF and beyond (Capital Allocators, EP.160) · Oct 19, 2020 · at 12:05

Carrie Thome, former CIO of the Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation (WARF), discusses the foundation's 1925 founding capital structure.

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“That 900 dollars is still on the books as paid in capital.”

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