O'Shaughnessy: Zero fund-of-funds fees would not have won the Buffett bet
Patrick O'Shaughnessy · The Bet with Buffett (Capital Allocators, EP.05) · May 2, 2017 · at 33:50
Patrick O'Shaughnessy discusses the post-mortem of Ted Seides's ten-year million-dollar wager against Warren Buffett pitting hedge funds against the S&P 500.
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“If the fund to fund fees had been zero, you still would have lost.”
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