Apr 15, 2019 · 1h 3m · capital-allocators

Paul Rabil - Lacrosse and Entrepreneurship (Capital Allocators, EP.95)

Paul Rabil · 47m spoken Ted Seides · 9m spoken
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In this episode of Capital Allocators, lacrosse champion and entrepreneur Paul Rabil discusses his journey from professional athlete to sports business innovator with host Ted Seides. Rabil details how he leveraged social media reach, venture capital financing, and an innovative tour-based model to co-found the Premier Lacrosse League (PLL).

How this conversation actually went

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Ted as informed peer 2.4 Guest teaching 5.3 Guest disagreement 1.1 Ted pushing back 0.0
05100:0015:0030:0045:001:00:006:09–8:56 · Ted as informed peer 2/10 Paul Rabil's Athletic Upbringing and Lacrosse Origins Ted opens with a friendly prompt asking about Paul's upbringing and path to lacrosse. Paul explains his background, noting how late he started and the historical lack of youth sports specialization.8:56–14:07 · Ted as informed peer 3/10 College Stardom, Pro Lacrosse Wages, and Endorsement Model Ted asks how few players could make a full-time living playing lacrosse. Paul walks through the stark reality of $6,000 rookie contracts in MLL and how building an early social media presence unlocked crucial sponsorship revenue.14:07–18:28 · Ted as informed peer 2/10 Entrepreneurship in Fitness, Lending, and Sports Business Immersion Ted inquires about the transition into running businesses. Paul details building gym franchises, launching a lending network, and actively attending sports business conferences to educate himself on commercialization.18:28–21:10 · Ted as informed peer 2/10 Audience Leverage, Social Media Strategy, and Digital Media Ted asks about the relative impact of various social media channels. Paul educates on platform-specific audience dynamics across Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.21:10–24:57 · Ted as informed peer 3/10 The Genesis of the Premier Lacrosse League and the MLL Bid Ted steers the conversation to the founding of the PLL. Paul provides an extensive narrative on attempting to buy MLL via a search fund before pivoting to create an independent league.24:57–31:31 · Ted as informed peer 2/10 Strategic Advantages of the PLL Tour-Based Operating Model Paul delivers a masterclass on sports economics, explaining why the legacy city-based venue lease model fails emerging sports and how a tour-based model maximizes broadcast distribution efficiency.31:33–35:23 · Ted as informed peer 3/10 Seed Capitalization, VC Financing, and NBC Media Rights Deal Ted asks about sequencing capitalization versus venue and media deals. Paul describes the venture financing process, staging rounds to protect valuation, and negotiating a major package with NBC.35:25–41:54 · Ted as informed peer 2/10 Sponsor Spotlight: Ridgeline AI-Native Investment Technology Following a sponsor read, Ted asks how players were selected. Paul explains introducing Silicon Valley equity structures, full healthcare, and living wages to attract elite talent.41:54–47:18 · Ted as informed peer 3/10 Lacrosse Operations, Team Formation, and Competitive Integrity Ted asks how teams were formed without a traditional draft or individual owners. Paul explains their collegiate and professional chemistry weighting algorithm reviewed by an independent advisory board.47:18–53:18 · Ted as informed peer 3/10 Remote Training Technology and Tour Team Logistics Ted asks about maintaining team chemistry across a distributed roster without weekly in-person practices. Paul compares their virtual preparation to NFL game-week routines and details the remote video infrastructure.53:20–55:44 · Ted as informed peer 2/10 The Paul Rabil Foundation: Empowering Neurodiverse Students Ted brings up Paul's personal foundation. Paul explains his own learning differences and how his foundation provides equipment and scholarships to neurodiverse students.55:46–57:52 · Ted as informed peer 2/10 Inaugural PLL Tour Schedule, Host Venues, and Traveling Logistics Ted asks about the inaugural schedule. Paul outlines the venue routing across major stadiums and explains the operational complexity of moving 55-foot production trailers week-to-week.6:09–8:56 · Guest teaching 4/10 Paul Rabil's Athletic Upbringing and Lacrosse Origins Ted opens with a friendly prompt asking about Paul's upbringing and path to lacrosse. Paul explains his background, noting how late he started and the historical lack of youth sports specialization.8:56–14:07 · Guest teaching 5/10 College Stardom, Pro Lacrosse Wages, and Endorsement Model Ted asks how few players could make a full-time living playing lacrosse. Paul walks through the stark reality of $6,000 rookie contracts in MLL and how building an early social media presence unlocked crucial sponsorship revenue.14:07–18:28 · Guest teaching 6/10 Entrepreneurship in Fitness, Lending, and Sports Business Immersion Ted inquires about the transition into running businesses. Paul details building gym franchises, launching a lending network, and actively attending sports business conferences to educate himself on commercialization.18:28–21:10 · Guest teaching 5/10 Audience Leverage, Social Media Strategy, and Digital Media Ted asks about the relative impact of various social media channels. Paul educates on platform-specific audience dynamics across Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.21:10–24:57 · Guest teaching 6/10 The Genesis of the Premier Lacrosse League and the MLL Bid Ted steers the conversation to the founding of the PLL. Paul provides an extensive narrative on attempting to buy MLL via a search fund before pivoting to create an independent league.24:57–31:31 · Guest teaching 7/10 Strategic Advantages of the PLL Tour-Based Operating Model Paul delivers a masterclass on sports economics, explaining why the legacy city-based venue lease model fails emerging sports and how a tour-based model maximizes broadcast distribution efficiency.31:33–35:23 · Guest teaching 6/10 Seed Capitalization, VC Financing, and NBC Media Rights Deal Ted asks about sequencing capitalization versus venue and media deals. Paul describes the venture financing process, staging rounds to protect valuation, and negotiating a major package with NBC.35:25–41:54 · Guest teaching 6/10 Sponsor Spotlight: Ridgeline AI-Native Investment Technology Following a sponsor read, Ted asks how players were selected. Paul explains introducing Silicon Valley equity structures, full healthcare, and living wages to attract elite talent.41:54–47:18 · Guest teaching 6/10 Lacrosse Operations, Team Formation, and Competitive Integrity Ted asks how teams were formed without a traditional draft or individual owners. Paul explains their collegiate and professional chemistry weighting algorithm reviewed by an independent advisory board.47:18–53:18 · Guest teaching 5/10 Remote Training Technology and Tour Team Logistics Ted asks about maintaining team chemistry across a distributed roster without weekly in-person practices. Paul compares their virtual preparation to NFL game-week routines and details the remote video infrastructure.53:20–55:44 · Guest teaching 4/10 The Paul Rabil Foundation: Empowering Neurodiverse Students Ted brings up Paul's personal foundation. Paul explains his own learning differences and how his foundation provides equipment and scholarships to neurodiverse students.55:46–57:52 · Guest teaching 4/10 Inaugural PLL Tour Schedule, Host Venues, and Traveling Logistics Ted asks about the inaugural schedule. Paul outlines the venue routing across major stadiums and explains the operational complexity of moving 55-foot production trailers week-to-week.6:09–8:56 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Paul Rabil's Athletic Upbringing and Lacrosse Origins Ted opens with a friendly prompt asking about Paul's upbringing and path to lacrosse. Paul explains his background, noting how late he started and the historical lack of youth sports specialization.8:56–14:07 · Guest disagreement 1/10 College Stardom, Pro Lacrosse Wages, and Endorsement Model Ted asks how few players could make a full-time living playing lacrosse. Paul walks through the stark reality of $6,000 rookie contracts in MLL and how building an early social media presence unlocked crucial sponsorship revenue.14:07–18:28 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Entrepreneurship in Fitness, Lending, and Sports Business Immersion Ted inquires about the transition into running businesses. Paul details building gym franchises, launching a lending network, and actively attending sports business conferences to educate himself on commercialization.18:28–21:10 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Audience Leverage, Social Media Strategy, and Digital Media Ted asks about the relative impact of various social media channels. Paul educates on platform-specific audience dynamics across Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.21:10–24:57 · Guest disagreement 1/10 The Genesis of the Premier Lacrosse League and the MLL Bid Ted steers the conversation to the founding of the PLL. Paul provides an extensive narrative on attempting to buy MLL via a search fund before pivoting to create an independent league.24:57–31:31 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Strategic Advantages of the PLL Tour-Based Operating Model Paul delivers a masterclass on sports economics, explaining why the legacy city-based venue lease model fails emerging sports and how a tour-based model maximizes broadcast distribution efficiency.31:33–35:23 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Seed Capitalization, VC Financing, and NBC Media Rights Deal Ted asks about sequencing capitalization versus venue and media deals. Paul describes the venture financing process, staging rounds to protect valuation, and negotiating a major package with NBC.35:25–41:54 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Sponsor Spotlight: Ridgeline AI-Native Investment Technology Following a sponsor read, Ted asks how players were selected. Paul explains introducing Silicon Valley equity structures, full healthcare, and living wages to attract elite talent.41:54–47:18 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Lacrosse Operations, Team Formation, and Competitive Integrity Ted asks how teams were formed without a traditional draft or individual owners. Paul explains their collegiate and professional chemistry weighting algorithm reviewed by an independent advisory board.47:18–53:18 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Remote Training Technology and Tour Team Logistics Ted asks about maintaining team chemistry across a distributed roster without weekly in-person practices. Paul compares their virtual preparation to NFL game-week routines and details the remote video infrastructure.53:20–55:44 · Guest disagreement 1/10 The Paul Rabil Foundation: Empowering Neurodiverse Students Ted brings up Paul's personal foundation. Paul explains his own learning differences and how his foundation provides equipment and scholarships to neurodiverse students.55:46–57:52 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Inaugural PLL Tour Schedule, Host Venues, and Traveling Logistics Ted asks about the inaugural schedule. Paul outlines the venue routing across major stadiums and explains the operational complexity of moving 55-foot production trailers week-to-week.6:09–8:56 · Ted pushing back 0/10 Paul Rabil's Athletic Upbringing and Lacrosse Origins Ted opens with a friendly prompt asking about Paul's upbringing and path to lacrosse. Paul explains his background, noting how late he started and the historical lack of youth sports specialization.8:56–14:07 · Ted pushing back 0/10 College Stardom, Pro Lacrosse Wages, and Endorsement Model Ted asks how few players could make a full-time living playing lacrosse. Paul walks through the stark reality of $6,000 rookie contracts in MLL and how building an early social media presence unlocked crucial sponsorship revenue.14:07–18:28 · Ted pushing back 0/10 Entrepreneurship in Fitness, Lending, and Sports Business Immersion Ted inquires about the transition into running businesses. Paul details building gym franchises, launching a lending network, and actively attending sports business conferences to educate himself on commercialization.18:28–21:10 · Ted pushing back 0/10 Audience Leverage, Social Media Strategy, and Digital Media Ted asks about the relative impact of various social media channels. Paul educates on platform-specific audience dynamics across Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.21:10–24:57 · Ted pushing back 0/10 The Genesis of the Premier Lacrosse League and the MLL Bid Ted steers the conversation to the founding of the PLL. Paul provides an extensive narrative on attempting to buy MLL via a search fund before pivoting to create an independent league.24:57–31:31 · Ted pushing back 0/10 Strategic Advantages of the PLL Tour-Based Operating Model Paul delivers a masterclass on sports economics, explaining why the legacy city-based venue lease model fails emerging sports and how a tour-based model maximizes broadcast distribution efficiency.31:33–35:23 · Ted pushing back 0/10 Seed Capitalization, VC Financing, and NBC Media Rights Deal Ted asks about sequencing capitalization versus venue and media deals. Paul describes the venture financing process, staging rounds to protect valuation, and negotiating a major package with NBC.35:25–41:54 · Ted pushing back 0/10 Sponsor Spotlight: Ridgeline AI-Native Investment Technology Following a sponsor read, Ted asks how players were selected. Paul explains introducing Silicon Valley equity structures, full healthcare, and living wages to attract elite talent.41:54–47:18 · Ted pushing back 0/10 Lacrosse Operations, Team Formation, and Competitive Integrity Ted asks how teams were formed without a traditional draft or individual owners. Paul explains their collegiate and professional chemistry weighting algorithm reviewed by an independent advisory board.47:18–53:18 · Ted pushing back 0/10 Remote Training Technology and Tour Team Logistics Ted asks about maintaining team chemistry across a distributed roster without weekly in-person practices. Paul compares their virtual preparation to NFL game-week routines and details the remote video infrastructure.53:20–55:44 · Ted pushing back 0/10 The Paul Rabil Foundation: Empowering Neurodiverse Students Ted brings up Paul's personal foundation. Paul explains his own learning differences and how his foundation provides equipment and scholarships to neurodiverse students.55:46–57:52 · Ted pushing back 0/10 Inaugural PLL Tour Schedule, Host Venues, and Traveling Logistics Ted asks about the inaugural schedule. Paul outlines the venue routing across major stadiums and explains the operational complexity of moving 55-foot production trailers week-to-week.

speaking balance: gold is Ted, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Ted 100% · guest 0%0:00 · Ted 100% · guest 0%3:00 · Ted 100% · guest 0%3:00 · Ted 100% · guest 0%6:00 · Ted 13.8% · guest 86.2%6:00 · Ted 13.8% · guest 86.2%9:00 · Ted 0.9% · guest 99.1%9:00 · Ted 0.9% · guest 99.1%12:00 · Ted 10.7% · guest 89.3%12:00 · Ted 10.7% · guest 89.3%15:00 · Ted 0% · guest 100%15:00 · Ted 0% · guest 100%18:00 · Ted 8.6% · guest 91.4%18:00 · Ted 8.6% · guest 91.4%21:00 · Ted 1.2% · guest 98.8%21:00 · Ted 1.2% · guest 98.8%24:00 · Ted 3.4% · guest 96.6%24:00 · Ted 3.4% · guest 96.6%27:00 · Ted 0% · guest 100%27:00 · Ted 0% · guest 100%30:00 · Ted 10.2% · guest 89.8%30:00 · Ted 10.2% · guest 89.8%33:00 · Ted 19.6% · guest 80.4%33:00 · Ted 19.6% · guest 80.4%36:00 · Ted 21.6% · guest 78.4%36:00 · Ted 21.6% · guest 78.4%39:00 · Ted 2.9% · guest 97.1%39:00 · Ted 2.9% · guest 97.1%42:00 · Ted 1.4% · guest 98.6%42:00 · Ted 1.4% · guest 98.6%45:00 · Ted 16.9% · guest 83.1%45:00 · Ted 16.9% · guest 83.1%48:00 · Ted 7.6% · guest 92.4%48:00 · Ted 7.6% · guest 92.4%51:00 · Ted 10.8% · guest 89.2%51:00 · Ted 10.8% · guest 89.2%54:00 · Ted 2.4% · guest 97.6%54:00 · Ted 2.4% · guest 97.6%57:00 · Ted 8.5% · guest 91.5%57:00 · Ted 8.5% · guest 91.5%1:00:00 · Ted 14.2% · guest 85.8%1:00:00 · Ted 14.2% · guest 85.8%1:03:00 · Ted 100% · guest 0%1:03:00 · Ted 100% · guest 0%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 25:40 Rabil rejects legacy franchise model assumptions

Paul firmly dismisses the traditional city-based franchise model for emerging sports leagues, asserting that venue leases and city alignments inherently handicap league distribution.

Hardest push from Ted ▶ 41:54 Ted presses on team formation without drafts

Ted directly challenges how a league can ensure competitive integrity and build teams without team owners or a standard player draft.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 27:25 Rabil explains broadcast rights and distribution math

Paul breaks down the exact media dynamics of weekend venue control, explaining how fixed TV windows require a touring model to secure top broadcast slots.

Ted holds their own ▶ 47:35 Ted probes distributed team dynamics against NFL norms

Ted leverages sports operational knowledge to question how team chemistry can develop without centralized weekly practice regimens like Bill Belichick's Patriots.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicTed as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementTed pushing backWhy
Paul Rabil's Athletic Upbringing and Lacrosse Origins 2410 Ted opens with a friendly prompt asking about Paul's upbringing and path to lacrosse. Paul explains his background, noting how late he started and the historical lack of youth sports specialization.
College Stardom, Pro Lacrosse Wages, and Endorsement Model 3510 Ted asks how few players could make a full-time living playing lacrosse. Paul walks through the stark reality of $6,000 rookie contracts in MLL and how building an early social media presence unlocked crucial sponsorship revenue.
Entrepreneurship in Fitness, Lending, and Sports Business Immersion 2610 Ted inquires about the transition into running businesses. Paul details building gym franchises, launching a lending network, and actively attending sports business conferences to educate himself on commercialization.
Audience Leverage, Social Media Strategy, and Digital Media 2510 Ted asks about the relative impact of various social media channels. Paul educates on platform-specific audience dynamics across Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.
The Genesis of the Premier Lacrosse League and the MLL Bid 3610 Ted steers the conversation to the founding of the PLL. Paul provides an extensive narrative on attempting to buy MLL via a search fund before pivoting to create an independent league.
Strategic Advantages of the PLL Tour-Based Operating Model 2720 Paul delivers a masterclass on sports economics, explaining why the legacy city-based venue lease model fails emerging sports and how a tour-based model maximizes broadcast distribution efficiency.
Seed Capitalization, VC Financing, and NBC Media Rights Deal 3610 Ted asks about sequencing capitalization versus venue and media deals. Paul describes the venture financing process, staging rounds to protect valuation, and negotiating a major package with NBC.
Sponsor Spotlight: Ridgeline AI-Native Investment Technology 2610 Following a sponsor read, Ted asks how players were selected. Paul explains introducing Silicon Valley equity structures, full healthcare, and living wages to attract elite talent.
Lacrosse Operations, Team Formation, and Competitive Integrity 3610 Ted asks how teams were formed without a traditional draft or individual owners. Paul explains their collegiate and professional chemistry weighting algorithm reviewed by an independent advisory board.
Remote Training Technology and Tour Team Logistics 3510 Ted asks about maintaining team chemistry across a distributed roster without weekly in-person practices. Paul compares their virtual preparation to NFL game-week routines and details the remote video infrastructure.
The Paul Rabil Foundation: Empowering Neurodiverse Students 2410 Ted brings up Paul's personal foundation. Paul explains his own learning differences and how his foundation provides equipment and scholarships to neurodiverse students.
Inaugural PLL Tour Schedule, Host Venues, and Traveling Logistics 2410 Ted asks about the inaugural schedule. Paul outlines the venue routing across major stadiums and explains the operational complexity of moving 55-foot production trailers week-to-week.

Statements from this episode (11)

Assertion Supported
Rabil: MLL Paid Rookie Players Just $6,000 for the Entire 2008 Season
“A low wage, which at the time for rookies was 6000 dollars for the whole season.”
Paul Rabil Apr 15, 2019 ▶ 12:47
Insight
Rabil: Unstaffed 24-Hour Gyms Generate Strong Cash Flow at 250 Members
“There didn't need to be an attendee there. They had this 24 hour security system that kicked back to HQ, so that's why I was really lean, and we could operate these things and If you get them up to 250 to 500 members, they spit out cash”
Paul Rabil Apr 15, 2019 ▶ 16:25
Assertion Supported
Rabil: Funding Circle Acquired Endurance Lending Network During Its Series A
“We started endurance lending network. So he shifted his time full time there that got acquired by funding circle. When we were out for our series a that turned into funding circle us”
Paul Rabil Apr 15, 2019 ▶ 17:06
Insight
Rabil: Athlete Angel Investors Offer Startups Immediate Customer Acquisition Channels
“That's why athletes are now really valuable for early stage startups as small investors that can, if you're the entrepreneur and you carve it out well, get access to their audience. It's like immediate customer acquisition.”
Paul Rabil Apr 15, 2019 ▶ 19:17
Assertion Supported
Rabil: Founders Leveraged Private Equity Backing to Attempt MLL Buyout
“So about six months later, we went back to MLL with overhead capital that we had acquired at the time as primarily private equity, and we proposed a number of different scenarios of essentially buying them or rolling them up and keeping them involved from an e…”
Paul Rabil Apr 15, 2019 ▶ 24:03
Assertion Partly supported
Rabil: Athlete Social Followings Are Up to Eight Times Larger Than Teams
“That athletes following are four, sometimes eight to one the size of their teams and league.”
Paul Rabil Apr 15, 2019 ▶ 26:10
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rabil: Less Than Five Percent of Sports Fans Attend Games in Person
“Less than five percent of sports fans actually go to games.”
Paul Rabil Apr 15, 2019 ▶ 28:40
Assertion Supported
Rabil: Lacrosse Is North America's Fastest-Growing Youth Team Sport
“It's the fastest growing team sport in North America at the youth level over the last 15 years.”
Paul Rabil Apr 15, 2019 ▶ 30:08
Disclosure
Rabil: Premier Lacrosse League Raised Seed VC to Secure Media Rights
“We shifted quickly from private equity to venture because this was certainly a venture investment. So we raised a small seed round, and the goal of that was to allow us to anchor a network deal Secure venues, get first leads in on sponsors, sign up players, hi…”
Paul Rabil Apr 15, 2019 ▶ 32:40
Assertion Supported
Rabil: Premier Lacrosse League Is Backed by Joe Tsai, Chernin, CAA
“Venture backed from folks like Josai and Josai Sports, Rain Ventures, CAA, Chernin, Blum. We have an individual who's one of the most successful hedge fund operators in Brett Jefferson.”
Paul Rabil Apr 15, 2019 ▶ 38:46
Disclosure
Rabil: Premier Lacrosse League Gives Stock Options to Its Players
“What you have in Silicon Valley is the treatment of your employees Where they get stock options of the business and that's carved out in your employee cap table. So we carved out a portion of that for our players. And so our players have options in the busines…”
Paul Rabil Apr 15, 2019 ▶ 39:11
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