Jun 27, 2022 · 55m · capital-allocators
Chris Dixon – Frameworks and Investing at Scale (EP.258, Crypto for Institutions 2, EP.05)
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In this episode of Capital Allocators, host Ted Seides interviews Chris Dixon, General Partner at a16z Crypto, to explore the architectural principles, creator economics, and venture investment strategies defining Web3. Dixon explains how decentralized protocols, composable infrastructure, and aligned participant incentives are fundamentally reshaping software, digital media, and institutional finance.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Ted holds 19.1% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Ted as informed peer 4.1 Guest teaching 6.0 Guest disagreement 2.5 Ted pushing back 1.5
speaking balance: gold is Ted, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 17:30 Dismissing Premature Institutional Adoption
Dixon aggressively rejects the institutional adoption talking point prominent in crypto media, asserting that institutions should not be involved in early-stage venture technology and calling the mindset putting the cart before the horse.
Hardest push from Ted ▶ 23:53 Ted Challenges Decentralization on Natural MonopoliesTed directly challenges Dixon's decentralized ownership thesis by arguing that platforms delivering creator monetization will inevitably aggregate into natural monopolies and centralize power like any standard economic sector.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 8:00 Dixon Reframes the Architecture of Web ErasDixon systematically educates the listener and host on internet architectural history, defining Web1 protocols, Web2 centralized gatekeepers, and the Web3 paradigm of read, write, and own.
Ted holds their own ▶ 23:53 Ted Demonstrates Platform Monopoly DynamicsTed exhibits sharp macro knowledge of market aggregation by articulating how talent and capital naturally consolidate into oligopolies regardless of initial decentralized protocol designs.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Ted as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Ted pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Miniseries Overview: Crypto for Institutions II | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Ted opens with sponsor reads and an introduction to the Crypto for Institutions II miniseries, followed by guest disclaimers and Chris Dixon's biography. | |
| The Web3 Paradigm: Read, Write, Own | 4 | 8 | 2 | 1 | Ted prompts Dixon to define Web3 relative to Web1 and Web2. Dixon delivers an extensive architectural breakdown of read, write, and own paradigms across internet history. | |
| Network Effects, Creator Economics, and Web2 Vulnerabilities | 5 | 7 | 4 | 2 | Ted questions how Web3 can overcome existing sticky Web2 network effects. Dixon explains greenfield versus brownfield opportunities while sharply criticizing Web2 platforms for throttling creators. | |
| Venture Economics and Scale in Decentralized Networks | 5 | 7 | 5 | 2 | Ted inquires about return profiles with low take rates and institutional adoption. Dixon pushes back on the obsession with institutional adoption, calling it premature and misaligned with early-stage venture building. | |
| Creator Monetization, Music NFTs, and Next-Gen Social Protocols | 4 | 6 | 2 | 1 | Ted asks about specific investment themes. Dixon highlights music monetization through NFTs and compares emerging social protocols to the open developer ecosystem of early RSS and Twitter. | |
| Open-Source Software Dynamics and Community Power | 7 | 8 | 4 | 6 | Ted challenges whether decentralized media platforms will inevitably become natural monopolies anyway. Dixon educates on the historical power of open source software and explains why network effects accrue to communities rather than corporations. | |
| Infrastructure Evolution and Technology Cycles | 5 | 7 | 2 | 1 | Ted asks about infrastructure and protocol composability. Dixon uses the smartphone timeline and open-source Lego block analogies to explain how modularity accelerates application development. | |
| DeFi Scaling, Layer 2s, and Stablecoin Regulation | 5 | 7 | 4 | 2 | Ted asks about embedded leverage in DeFi during the market downturn. Dixon explicitly distinguishes transparent on-chain protocols from opaque centralized lenders and criticizes regulatory focus on compliant stablecoins. | |
| Web3 Gaming and Interoperable Virtual Economies | 4 | 6 | 3 | 2 | Ted asks about recent contractions in Web3 gaming models like Axie Infinity. Dixon rejects sensationalized press narratives and outlines how open virtual economies and interoperable standards will evolve. | |
| Decentralized Media, Fan Communities, and Hollywood | 4 | 6 | 2 | 1 | Ted asks about decentralized storytelling and content creation. Dixon contrasts Silicon Valley skepticism with Hollywood's instinctive understanding of emotional IP and audience ownership. | |
| The a16z Crypto Operating Model and Specialized Teams | 4 | 6 | 1 | 1 | Ted inquires about a16z's specialized operational platform. Dixon outlines their 80-person dedicated crypto organization across research, security auditing, and non-credentialist recruiting. | |
| Evaluating Founders: Superpowers and the Trough of Disillusionment | 5 | 7 | 2 | 1 | Ted asks about founder evaluation and macro market shifts. Dixon describes investing in superpowers rather than lack of weakness, navigating the trough of disillusionment, and fourth-generation blockchain development. | |
| Regulatory Policy and US Competitiveness | 4 | 6 | 3 | 1 | Ted asks about novel risks in the current downturn and investor pet peeves. Dixon argues for balanced US regulation to keep tech exports domestic and discusses the founder covenant. | |
| Formative Influences: Dayton Computer Clubs and Early PC Culture | 3 | 4 | 1 | 1 | Ted asks Dixon about formative career influences. Dixon shares stories of Dayton 1980s computer clubs, early correspondence with Alan Kay, and early venture backing from Ron Conway. | |
| Career Advice: Climbing the Wrong Hill and Founder Risk | 3 | 5 | 2 | 1 | Ted closes by asking about career mistakes and takeaways. Dixon delivers advice on avoiding the local maximum by not climbing the wrong hill and underestimating entrepreneurial risk. |
Statements from this episode (46)
Dixon: Five to ten companies essentially control the internet
“You have five, maybe 10 companies that essentially control the internet. You still have open protocols like the web and email, but they've been diminished in their influence and power.”
Dixon: Web3 combines Web1 open protocols with Web2 functionality
“The goal of web three is to get the best of both worlds, to get the democratized open protocols of web one and the advanced functionality that we've come to love, mobile apps, fast user experience, everything else from web two and combine those.”
Dixon: Non-crypto VCs see over 50% of founders pitching Web3
“When I talk to friends who aren't even into crypto and web three technology investors, they'll tell me something on the order of 50% or more of the entrepreneurs that come to them are doing web three.”
Dixon: Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram pay zero ad revenue to creators
“Twitter and Facebook have zero dollar revenue share. Instagram is zero dollars. So Instagram makes all their money on advertising. They pay zero out to the creators.”
Dixon: a16z recently invested in social networks offering creators 98% payouts
“We've invested in a bunch just recently where instead of the creators getting zero percent, they get 98%.”
Dixon: Google and Facebook will become low-growth legacy giants like IBM
“I think they're very likely going to become like IBM and HP and just chugging along and not really doing much new innovative stuff. They'll still be around and they'll still have their services, but I think that their relevance and growth are limited.”
Dixon: Web3 token ownership eliminates heavy customer acquisition spending
“In blockchain web three, there's been very, very few cases of people spending significant money on customer acquisition. One of the exciting things of web three is that the users, because they have tokens, because they have ownership, they become evangelists f…”
Dixon: Focusing on institutional crypto adoption puts the cart before horse
“I think of it as we need to build great products used by billions of people. And then I just assume the institutions will follow. The institutions are going to go where the growth and the money is, frankly. That's what comes first. So I feel like people are pu…”
Dixon: a16z Crypto just raised a $4.5 billion fund
“We just raised a four and a half billion dollar new fund.”
Dixon: a16z owns less than 5% of most Web3 networks
“Generally what we own, contrary to Jack Dorsey and others saying that we own web three, we generally own sub five percent of most of these networks.”
Dixon: OpenSea paid out around $5B to creators last year
“We're investors in OpenSea, which is an NFT platform. We put a report out recently where we calculated how much OpenSea had paid out to creative people. And it was something on the order of five billion dollars last year with a B”
Dixon: Web3 payouts will pass Web2 payouts in next couple years
“I believe we'll see in the next couple of years, web three payouts past web two payouts.”
Dixon: Twitter shutting down its developer ecosystem was a mistake
“Twitter decided to shut that down because they decided to pursue an advertising business model, which I think was a mistake, but that's what they did.”
Dixon: 99% of daily software interacted with is open source
“99% of the software that your listeners are interacting with on a daily basis is open source software.”
Dixon: Power in tech is almost always driven by network effects
“Power in tech is network effects, almost always. Occasionally you have scale effects, brand effects, but generally it's network effects.”
Dixon: Web3 services will not have dominant network effects locking users in
“In the case of Web three, the network is owned by the community yet. I think you'll have big services. We'll hopefully invest in some of them, but they won't have the dominant network effects that lock you in and users will have a choice. Users can exit.”
Dixon: I would leave Twitter if I could take my followers with me
“If I had that same ability on Twitter, I'd switch off of Twitter. I'd switch C. Dixon on Twitter to something else because I don't like how they run that service. They have spam and a bunch of other things, and I'd like to switch and take my followers with me,…”
Dixon: Almost all major mobile apps were created between 2009 and 2011
“Almost all of the big mobile apps were created between 2009 and 11.”
Dixon: Blockchains are close to abstraction maturity but not there yet
“I think we're close to that in blockchains and crypto, but we're not quite there yet. So we're making a lot of investments in the infrastructure layer to get to that point.”
Dixon: Composability is the compound interest of software development
“I like to say composability is the software as compounding interest is the finance. It has that same amazing thing. When you do compounded interest, you're like, whoa, that really matters a lot. This is obviously well known to your listeners, but in software, …”
Dixon: Compound and on-chain DeFi protocols performed well through market volatility
“And Compound, by the way, contrary to a lot of the news you'll read today, Compound and all of the other on-chain DeFi protocols have performed quite well in this volatile market.”
Dixon: Uniswap surpassed $1 trillion in trading volume
“Uniswap, which is what's called a decentralized exchange, just passed a trillion dollars in trading volume”
Dixon: Ethereum Layer 2 networks are ready for prime time
“We're seeing production ready scaled other networks, including what are called layer two networks on top of Ethereum that are really ready for prime time. And that dramatically lowers the transaction costs and therefore opens up a lot of new design possibiliti…”
Dixon: US stablecoin regulation perversely incentivizes offshore evasion
“USDC gets all the attention from the regulators and the other ones are ignored. And it creates this perverse incentive where it actually, I think, incentivizes people to be offshore, more aggressive, because they don't get the scrutiny, and the people that wan…”
Dixon: Majority of top studio spinouts are building Web3 games
“Those game developers, I would say the majority of them are now doing NFT web three gaming.”
Dixon: a16z Has Invested in Roughly 15 Top Game Studios
“We've probably made 15 investments in what I would call world-class game developers.”
Dixon: Gaming Metaverse Economies Will Provide Livelihoods for Many People
“I think that trend will only increase and there'll be more and more people who earn a living digitally. And I think creating spaceships and EVE online and selling goods and creating worlds and doing all sorts of other creative activities, for example, in a gam…”
Dixon: Technical Infrastructure for Cross-Game Item Interoperability Exists Today
“I think the programming is there today. NFTs are pretty simple programming standard that's relatively easy to bring from one game to another.”
Dixon: Hollywood understands Web3 and NFTs while Silicon Valley dismisses them
“People at Google and Facebook, in my experience, just don't get this stuff. Web two entrepreneurs just scratching their heads and they say it's all scams and fraud. They just don't get it. People in Hollywood get it. It's not weird to them. They've been sellin…”
Dixon: a16z Crypto operates as an 80-person team with 50 operating specialists
“From an operational point of view, we're a completely independent team. We have 80 people on the crypto team. 13 are on the investment team. Then there's some set of back office and support, and then 50 or so on our operating teams.”
Dixon: a16z Crypto never joins party rounds and only leads investments
“When we invest, we don't do quote unquote party rounds. We don't put a little bit of money here and dabble. We either invest and lead and back up the truck and put all our resources behind it and roll up our sleeves or we don't invest.”
Dixon: Web3 hiring values open source contributions over formal credentials
“In our world, a lot of people may not have formal educations. They may not have the same pedigree, brand name resumes. We've hired a lot of people who have not gone to college. What we want to see is they've demonstrated excellence. That excellence can be thro…”
Dixon: Tech workers lack mission drive in SaaS compared to Web3
“This is in no way to diminish other categories, but I just don't think people feel mission-driven with respect to SaaS software, as an example, or databases. I think those are important categories, just so you know, and our firm invests in them. They provide r…”
Dixon: Backing well-rounded founders leads to mediocre returns
“One of our core frameworks is invest in strengths, not lack of weaknesses. So what that means is look for people with some kind of superpower, but that doesn't mean they have to be well-rounded. The truth is a lot of great people and a lot of great companies h…”
Dixon: Surviving startup troughs requires grit and cross-disciplinary knowledge
“You get through that trough, you have to have two characteristics. You have to really just be all in. You have to have grit and you have to be willing to put up with that and be kind of miserable and all your friends say, what are you doing and why are you was…”
Dixon: 2022 crypto crash resembles 2008 macro shock, not crypto winters
“To me, this feels more like 2008 than the crypto downturns of 2014 and 18. The macro thing with inflation, interest rates, the next few months will tell maybe the inflation was transitory or maybe it will lead to problems in real estate and credit markets. And…”
Dixon: Tech scaling laws are economically driven, not physical inevitabilities
“If you look at just generally at the history of technology, people mistakenly think of these things as laws of physics, like Moore's law. People talk about as if magically There's this inevitable march towards being able to pack more transistors on chips. I th…”
Dixon: Most a16z crypto portfolio companies are domiciled in the US
“Most of our companies are domiciled in the United States. We always recommend that.”
Dixon: Tech and media are the United States' two main exports
“We basically have two exports in the U S right now. We have tech and media. Just look at the numbers. Those are the two killer products that we have.”
Dixon: a16z invested in all 15 Coinbase funding rounds pre-IPO
“So Coinbase, as an example, I was on the board and we invested in but they did 15 rounds of financing before they went public and we invested in every single one of them.”
Dixon: a16z backed Dapper Labs across six rounds before Top Shot
“Dapper Labs is a company that makes this popular product called Top Shot. But before Top Shot, they did, I think it was six rounds of financing and invested in all of them.”
Dixon: a16z expects founder perseverance, not guaranteed success
“We don't expect them to win or be successful, but we expect them to try really hard. A pet peeve would be entrepreneurs who just don't keep that covenant. Hey, I'm going to quit my startup and go take this cushy job. When we invest, that's kind of the only thi…”
Dixon: True tech community is grassroots peer affinity, matching early PC culture
“To me, a community is not when you look up to a leader like Steve Jobs. It's when you bump into somebody at a bar, and they're interested in that topic, and you actually feel an affinity. And that's how the PC felt back then, and that's how crypto feels today.”