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Assertion Not checkable as stated
Pogue: OceanGate Operated with a Strict Rocket-Launch-Style Safety Culture
“There is a very obvious culture of safety among the crew. I mean, this thing is run like a rocket launch with Long countdowns and checklists and inspections and mandatory twice daily briefings, even if you're not diving, you have to be there, where they go thr…”
David Pogue Jun 27, 2023 ▶ 4:39 My Experience Aboard The OceanGate Sub — With David Pogue of CBS
Assertion Contradicted
Pogue: Titanic Expert Paul-Henri Nargeolet Fully Approved Titan's Design
“Thirdly, probably the most famous, one of the most famous living Titanic explorers in the world, P.H. Nargele was on board as an Ocean Gate employee. He had been looking over the design, construction, and testing of the Titan submersible and fully approved.”
David Pogue Jun 27, 2023 ▶ 3:54 My Experience Aboard The OceanGate Sub — With David Pogue of CBS
Assertion Supported
Pogue: OceanGate took hours to notify Coast Guard about missing Titan
“Why did it take them so long To notify the Coast Guard that the sub had gone missing. I think it was a number of hours.”
David Pogue Jun 27, 2023 ▶ 35:38 My Experience Aboard The OceanGate Sub — With David Pogue of CBS
Assertion Contradicted
Pogue: OceanGate's Titan Completed 20 Dives to Titanic Depths
“Secondly, it had made 20 uneventful dives to the Titanic depths and back. Without a blink.”
David Pogue Jun 27, 2023 ▶ 3:46 My Experience Aboard The OceanGate Sub — With David Pogue of CBS
Opinion
Pogue: Before implosion, Titan sub seemed far safer than spaceflight
“I, to me, the sub was far safer than a Blue Origin or a SpaceX. I mean, obviously that looks insane now, but it imploded.”
David Pogue Jun 27, 2023 ▶ 41:23 My Experience Aboard The OceanGate Sub — With David Pogue of CBS
Assertion Supported
Pogue: OceanGate shut off ship Wi-Fi when Titan lost contact
“During the time that the sub was lost on the seafloor, the CBS crew, and actually everybody else, was on the bridge of the ship with the control room people which is primarily Wendy Rush, Stockton's wife, ran the comms, and the various experts and scientists, …”
David Pogue Jun 27, 2023 ▶ 34:07 My Experience Aboard The OceanGate Sub — With David Pogue of CBS
Opinion
Pogue: Massive Titan Sub Coverage Parallels 'Missing White Woman Syndrome' For Billionaires
“I mean, it's the white girl in danger scenario. I don't know if you've heard this term, but when there's a white girl in danger, it's national headlines or pictures on the front page of every newspaper. If it's an identical black girl, you just don't hear abou…”
David Pogue Jun 27, 2023 ▶ 36:57 My Experience Aboard The OceanGate Sub — With David Pogue of CBS
Assertion Supported
Pogue: Titan had a 16-hour dissolving hook to surface automatically
“And one of these backup systems would work even if everyone inside was unconscious or dead. It was a time-release, sixteen-hour, dissolving sandbag hook.”
David Pogue Jun 27, 2023 ▶ 20:49 My Experience Aboard The OceanGate Sub — With David Pogue of CBS
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2073
Stockton Rush: The Titanic wreck will deteriorate into rust within 50 years
“I had a long conversation with Stockton Rush about this, and he said, I think that the people who object are wrong, because first of all, this wreck won't be there in 50 years. It's gonna be a lump of Rust. And if we're not there filming it, shooting it, makin…”
David Pogue Jun 27, 2023 ▶ 10:01 My Experience Aboard The OceanGate Sub — With David Pogue of CBS
Assertion Supported
Pogue: Titan hull is a 5-inch-thick carbon fiber cylinder
“The hull, of course, is a carbon fiber cylinder, five inches thick, and you may not drill anything into carbon fiber. You may not interrupt that surface.”
David Pogue Jun 27, 2023 ▶ 15:17 My Experience Aboard The OceanGate Sub — With David Pogue of CBS
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Pogue: Stockton Rush invited CBS on OceanGate Titanic dive
“Stockton Rush, the now familiar name, the CEO of Ocean Gate and the designer of The Sub was a fan of our show, and he sent over an invitation to our producers that said we could accommodate three of you on our support ship for one of our nine-day expeditions, …”
David Pogue Jun 27, 2023 ▶ 0:15 My Experience Aboard The OceanGate Sub — With David Pogue of CBS
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