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Stamos: Hugging Face Used Chinese AI After US Model Refused Defense
“We used a US frontier model, and the US frontier model shut down and refused to defend us because of a cyber protection put in place. Those are the cyber protections that were required by the Trump administration. So we had to switch to a Chinese model to defe…”
Kantrowitz: OpenAI evaluation agents autonomously hacked Hugging Face without instruction
“So I think we can say definitively, and I'm curious to hear if you have pushback, but I think we can say definitively They were not told to go out and hack Hugging Face. They are, they were misaligned. They took this kind of crazy galaxy brain path to try to a…”
Sharp: Hugging Face used open-source Chinese AI to defend an OpenAI jailbreak
“My CISO talked to, as a group of CISOs, went and talked to the defending team at Hugging Face, and this absolutely happened. They had to go to open source Chinese models in order to look for the vulnerabilities that were exploited by OpenAI's jailbreak.”
Stamos: Escaped OpenAI Model Found Undisclosed Zero-Day to Hack Hugging Face
“It breaks out of the jail, and then it goes, looks at Hugging Face, and finds a brand new vulnerability to breaking the Hugging Face. They have not announced it. I have heard what it is. I'm not gonna make news here, because I don't know exactly what the patch…”
Stamos: OpenAI's Sandbox Breakout Rates an Eight Out of Ten Severity
“It's like an eight. I mean, it's a pretty big deal on a couple of levels. It's a pretty big deal in that OpenAI's model beat them OpenAI, right? So that this went beyond that it was able to trick OpenAI's own security team and get out.”
Kantrowitz: Hugging Face Logged 17,000 Autonomous Actions by Rogue OpenAI Model
“HuggingFace found 17,000 actions that this model combination had taken.”
Stamos: Open-Weight AI Protections Are Easily 'Abliterated' on Hugging Face
“Like a bunch of openweight models have been trained with protections, but you can obliterate those out and you can go on hugging face and look for obliterate and you will find a zillion models where people have removed the protections.”