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Scaringe: Tesla possesses a highly profitable automotive service division

RJ Scaringe · Rivian's CEO on Elon Musk's Influence, Affordable EVs, and The Grid's Risky Future — W/ RJ Scaringe · Nov 20, 2024 · at 23:59

RJ Scaringe, CEO of Rivian, explains how upfront investments in automotive service infrastructure eventually become profitable tailwinds, citing Tesla as an example.

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“Tesla's a great example of this. One of the big tailwinds they have is they have a great, highly profitable service arm.”

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Tesla possesses a highly profitable automotive service division.

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Assessment

RJ Scaringe claimed on 2024-11-20 that Tesla has a 'highly profitable' service division. Tesla's SEC filings show that its 'Services and other' segment—which combines vehicle maintenance/repair with used car sales, paid Supercharging, parts, insurance, and merchandise—did transition from gross losses in 2021 (-$104M / -2.7% margin) to positive gross profit in 2022 ($211M / 3.5% margin), 2023 ($489M / 5.9% margin), and through the first nine months of 2024 ($494M / 6.4% margin, reaching 8.8% in Q3 2024). However, the claim is only partially true: single-digit gross margins (3.5%–8.8%) reflect modest gross profitability rather than a 'highly profitable' business, automotive service is not reported as a standalone division, and operating expenses (SG&A) are not allocated to segments in Tesla's 10-K/10-Q filings, leaving net operating profitability undisclosed.

Tesla Form 10-K filings report 'Services and other' gross profit of -$104 million (-2.7% margin) in FY 2021, +$211 million (+3.5% margin) in FY 2022, and +$489 million (+5.9% margin) in FY 2023.
Tesla Form 10-Q filings for 2024 report 'Services and other' gross profit of $81 million (3.5% margin) in Q1, $167 million (6.4% margin) in Q2, and $246 million (8.8% margin) in Q3, totaling $494 million (6.4% margin) for the first nine months of 2024.
Tesla does not allocate operating expenses (SG&A, R&D) to product lines or report operating income for 'Services and other', and bundles vehicle service with used car sales, Supercharging, insurance, and merchandise.

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[1] sec.gov [2] sec.gov [3] sec.gov [4] tradingview.com [5] bessmanufacturers.com [6] sec.gov [7] tesla.com [8] deepresearchglobal.com

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