Sep 17, 2024 · 32m · big-technology
Sparking Net New Innovation At Massive Scale — With LG's Sokwoo Rhee
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Alex Kantrowitz interviews Sokwoo Rhee, Executive Vice President of Innovation at LG Electronics, exploring how LG Nova's outside-in incubation model co-creates and scales high-margin healthcare, clean tech, and applied AI businesses. Rhee details the strategic pivot from traditional hardware manufacturing toward sustainable, service-driven enterprise spinouts.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Alex holds 22% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Alex as informed peer 2.4 Guest teaching 2.1 Guest disagreement 0.2 Alex pushing back 0.2
speaking balance: gold is Alex, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 26:43 Rejecting tech sector categorization
Sokwoo rejects Alex's prompt to name trendy technology categories like quantum or metaverse, arguing instead that technologies are merely enablers defined by their application.
Hardest push from Alex ▶ 16:48 Demanding real-world proofAlex challenges Sokwoo's theoretical framing by demanding a concrete example of where their model succeeds when the rubber meets the road.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 27:25 IoT parallels and the Gartner hype cycleSokwoo educates Alex using the historical adoption of IoT and the Gartner hype cycle to explain why AI model hype will dip before real everyday value emerges.
Alex holds their own ▶ 14:40 Enterprise buying psychology analysisAlex demonstrates industry expertise by citing enterprise risk avoidance ('nobody gets fired for buying IBM') to explain why startups require enterprise backing to close contracts.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Alex as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Alex pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| The Strategic Mandate and Creation of LG Nova | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Alex opens with a supportive setup exploring LG Nova's role as a net new incubator within LG. Sokwoo agrees fully with Alex's framing and outlines LG's financial scale and strategic shift toward non-hardware revenue. | |
| Designing a Decoupled Model for Startup Collaboration | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Alex asks how LG overcomes the organizational inertia of a giant hardware manufacturer. Sokwoo explains the structural decision to decouple LG Nova from headquarters to work collaboratively with non-hardware startups. | |
| Target Focus Areas and Collaborative Ideation Process | 2 | 3 | 1 | 0 | Alex asks how Nova selects focus areas and assumes funding comes before partnership. Sokwoo clarifies and inverts Alex's premise by explaining that investments only occur after establishing active commercial ideation. | |
| Overcoming Startup Hurdles: Capital, First Customers, and Brand | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Alex prompts Sokwoo on the value proposition LG brings beyond cash. Sokwoo shares his former founder perspective on startup hurdles: securing capital, winning initial enterprise customers, and establishing brand credibility. | |
| Mitigating Enterprise Risk Through LG-Backed Joint Ventures | 4 | 2 | 0 | 1 | Alex brings domain insight regarding the enterprise buying dilemma, invoking the classic 'no one got fired for buying IBM' mindset. Sokwoo affirms this dynamic, noting that Nova creates joint business entities (NewCos) to provide enterprise reliability. | |
| Real-World Application: Prime Focus Healthcare Spinout | 2 | 2 | 0 | 1 | Alex pushes Sokwoo to move past theory and show where the rubber meets the road. Sokwoo details the Prime Focus remote healthcare monitoring venture launched in West Virginia. | |
| Transforming LG's Corporate Composition Beyond Manufacturing | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Alex inquires about whether scaling these startups alters LG's corporate identity. Sokwoo details LG's broader 64-company conglomerate structure and credit CEO William Cho with pivoting toward service-oriented businesses. | |
| Evaluating Tech as Enablers and Navigating the AI Hype Cycle | 2 | 4 | 1 | 0 | When Alex asks which hot technology buzzwords are most promising, Sokwoo reframes the inquiry by arguing technology is merely an enabler whose value is dictated strictly by application domain. | |
| Applied AI in Daily Workflows and LG Nova's Strategy | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Alex shares a concrete example of using an LLM to track his whole foods diet to demonstrate applied AI workflows. Sokwoo confirms that LG Nova focuses on building practical businesses atop existing models rather than training foundational LLMs. |
Statements from this episode (9)
Rhee: LG Nova only invests when a collaboration plan exists
“We have a very specific investment philosophy. We invest into startups only when we know we're going to work with them. It's not like we invest in them and then try to figure out what to do with them.”
Rhee: Most LG Nova startup partnerships use revenue sharing
“Most of the partnerships we get into with the startups, it comes to the revenue sharing. So whatever we do together they get a cut, we get a cut. So that's how usually it's structured. I mean, some startups prefer straightforward licensing. We are happy to dis…”
Corporate venture money cannot guarantee startup longevity to enterprise buyers
“Investment has a limited liability, meaning that you just put in money, and the worst case scenario, you lose the money. So from the customer's perspective, okay, you have an investor, large investor, that's good for you if you are a startup, but that doesn't …”
LG Nova packages startups into co-created LG entities for enterprise buyers
“We jointly create the business. LG creates our own business, which we call ourselves a NewCo or CMBU, and startups become part of it, becomes the integral part of the business. So when it go to the big customers, we don't just go to go there as a startup. We g…”
Rhee: LG spun out healthcare startup Prime Focus
“We have a healthcare company we just spun out about three months ago, which is called Prime Focus. That was the first company we developed and established through this process that we just mentioned.”
Rhee: Vast majority of LG's roughly 64 companies focus on manufacturing
“LG, you know, LG Umbrella, there are about 64 companies. It changes every year plus minus, but there are about 64 companies, including, including LG Chemical you know, LG Energy Solutions, and all these things. Even, they even have a telco in Korea. There are …”
Rhee: LG Nova aims to build multi-billion dollar software spinouts
“Our job, my job, is to create six fifths and six sixth of those multi-billion dollar companies that are very different from the composition of LG that they have right now. Okay. Much more software focused, much more service oriented businesses.”
Rhee: Internal R&D lab incubation fails for software and service businesses
“When they try to start from pure R&D and in the lab, they try, I mean, that's a typical and traditional way to create new business in hardware world. But that doesn't work very well in a non-hardware and service-oriented world.”