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Gerstner: Many early AI companies will go to zero like early search engines
“A lot of people ran out and invested in Ash Cheeves and Alta Vista and Lycos and excite and name all the companies that a few years later would go to zero. And it's almost certain that that will also happen in AI.”
Gerstner: Apple will partner with OpenAI, limiting features to newer iPhones
“I think they're going to have a series of announcements, you know, in terms of integrating with OpenAI. They're going to make the phone better. They're going to say, you can only get it on 15 plus or 16. They'll drive a replacement cycle into, you know, that b…”
Gerstner: AI agents will navigate existing apps rather than replace them
“So we're not going to throw out all the apps that we currently have like DoorDash and Booking.com, but where your AI will be smart enough to navigate those and then maybe take screenshots and push them to you or things like that.”
Gerstner: Multimodal AI voice and video will disrupt BPO call centers
“I'll tell you a whole nother category of companies, Bill that have moved into that bucket and it's all these BPO companies, business process, outsourcing businesses, right? So, you know, because remember, it's not just about language now, right? BPO companies …”
Gurley: Free Meta AI eliminates consumer willingness to pay $20 for ChatGPT
“As long as Meta's free, I don't think anyone pays the 20 dollars. And I will say that is as things sit today. If some crazy feature comes along, you know, we've talked about personal memory, maybe, maybe that comes back, but for now, It feels dead.”
Gerstner: GPT-5 will introduce early memory and agentic actions
“Like I think in GPT-V, it's not going to be the final state, but I think you're going to see the beginnings of memory and the beginnings of actions. Right. And this is, you know, months away and you and I have a bet on this.”
Gerstner: The GPU shortage will not turn into a glut in 2024
“Every supply shortage does ultimately result in a glut. But people have been calling for this glut now for you know, 12 months anyway. And they're calling for it again this year. We're not going to see it again this year.”
Gerstner: Robotaxis Will Increase Rideshare Net Margins to 12-14%
“We still think that the margin goes up from, let's call it seven percent of gross bookings to something like 12 or 14% of gross bookings, even taking into account all of that bill.”
Gerstner: At Least 20 LLM Companies Will Go to Zero
“There are gonna be 20 LLMs that go to zero or many more”
Gerstner: Nuclear Power Cannot Satisfy AI Energy Demand Over Next Decade
“Then all the stuff that we just talked about, the demand that we've got to satisfy over the next 10 years is not going to come from nuclear. It's got to be an all of the above strategy.”
Gerstner: $20 Monthly Fees for Consumer AI Are Not Defensible
“Listen, I don't think a 20 dollar a month fee for my consumer AI is going to be defensible. And the reason I don't think that's defensible is because they're going to be way too many people in the pool. Apple's going to have one. Google's going to have one. Me…”
Gerstner: Apple has a near-zero probability of outsourcing its AI to Gemini
“I put the probability of them, quote unquote, outsourcing AI to Gemini at next to zero.”
Gerstner: There is a real chance TikTok shuts down within 18 months
“So I think there's a real chance that when we're looking at this, 12 to 18 months from now, that it's an absolute no go, that they can't find a middle ground and that the app is shut down.”
Gerstner: Next-Gen AI Frontier Models Will Arrive in Q2 2025
“All the rest of the frontier models are kind of in this holding pattern because they're waiting for the B 100 to get launched to this Q three, Q four out of Nvidia. Which probably means the next iteration of the frontier models will come out in Q two of next y…”
Gerstner: Zuckerberg will commoditize AI pricing by releasing cheap frontier models
“Zuckerberg is going to drive the price, right? He's going to give away frontier esque models on the cheap. Okay. And that's going to be highly disruptive to your ability to stack margin.”
Gurley: Banning open-source AI would cause the US to lose to China
“The one thing that would cause us to get way behind China is if we played without open source and they had it like us.”
Gerstner: Companies will flee Delaware if Musk pay ruling is upheld
“So if it gets upheld, I expect you're going to see significant flight from the state of Delaware by people reincorporated in these other states that, you know, frankly are pretty friendly as well.”
Gerstner: AI answer engines will operate below margin to take search share
“It would be surprising to me if we don't see Meta AI, and Microsoft, and ByteDance, and Perplexity, and all the others who are providing answer engines, ChatGPT, coming at them below margin, ok?”
Gerstner: Apple will use small on-device models and delegate complex queries
“Think about what Apple's going to do maybe more like a small language model. Like, really understand all the language, really understand everything about me, really understand how I interact with all these applications, and then when I have a deep problem I ne…”
Gerstner: Autonomous driving will shift entirely to imitation learning over rules
“Well, here's where I think the world's going. We met with these robotics companies. We meet with Tesla, et cetera. Imitation learning, okay? They're not even gonna know what the stop sign is, or the traffic light is, or the dog in the street. They're not gonna…”
Gerstner: On-device AI models will unlock a huge Apple upgrade cycle
“To me, the big breakthrough on Apple is if they can run a five, ten billion dollar parameter model on the phone, on the edge, without consuming all of my battery, which, you know, there's a lot of talk that they're going to be able to do that. They can maintai…”
Gurley: AI inference market will prioritize power and cost over raw performance
“The inference market over time is gonna be much more susceptible to you know, things that are lower power, lower cost, all the things that, that aren't just performance from a silicon perspective.”
Gerstner: GCC sovereign AI compute orders will rival hyperscalers
“And I think what people still don't appreciate is they're probably dozens of sovereigns who are trying to get into the NVIDIA order book, and that they view it as one of their top three national priorities to build out AI capabilities. And I think the size you…”
Gerstner: Trillions will be spent rebuilding global compute infrastructure over 4-5 years
“But I do think that we're talking trillions of dollars over the course of the next four to five years as we rebuild the world's compute infrastructure.”
Gerstner: AI will hit a disillusionment phase, creating a buying opportunity
“We're going to hit a zone of disillusionment where you have a mismatch between supply and demand, and then all the skeptics are going to say, I told you so. The internet's a fad. AI's a fad. Mobile's a fad. It happens in every super cycle. We're going to use t…”
Levie: Cloud-Credit AI Funding Music Will Stop, OpenAI Aside
“I think unfortunately there's like an inevitable, there's going to be an inevitable, you know, that the music will stop at some point on, on, on this particular dynamic. Open AI, you know, aside, just because they actually do have the traction, they probably d…”
Gerstner predicts AI will hit a zone of disillusionment within four quarters
“When I think about what's going to happen here, I can absolutely see sometime over the next four quarters, we're going to hit a zone of disillusionment because everybody's pig piled in here.”
Gurley: Next AI steps will not be linear or super linear
“I do think the text has kind of been solved and everything's kind of been scanned. And I think the next steps not Linear or super linear. I think it's going to be a little bit of a find.”
Gurley: Mega-cap cloud credit financing will cause market distortions
“What I fear is that this is happening at such a large level and maybe we haven't seen the end of it, right? I think there's reason you can see more that it's going to create a market distortion.”
Gerstner: Four or five companies will reach GPT-4 performance in 2024
“I think, you know, a lot said in a tweet yesterday, we're going to have four or five companies that hit chat GPT four level this year with their models. I think that's exactly right.”
Gerstner: Microsoft, Amazon, and Snowflake will accelerate growth rates in 2024
“We expect our forecast is that Microsoft and Amazon, you know, Snowflake, they'll all accelerate their growth rates this year, right?”
Gerstner: Tech IPO Dam Will Break in Second Half of 2024
“I think you're gonna see the dam really break on this year, particularly in the back half of this year. And the reason is because people gotta raise capital, right?”
Gerstner: 2024 Is the Year of Acceptance for Lower Startup Valuations
“What I finally see happening this year, I think, 20, 24 in terms of the stages of grief is the year of acceptance. Right. I think people are just going to have to get liquid. They're going to accept the prices that they have to accept because frankly, there ar…”
Jain: Generative AI will not fizzle out like robotic process automation
“It's fundamental, it's different, and the, and that's why, like, you know, I don't think, you know, we, this technology is going to fizzle out. And it's not like, you know, you don't have to be, like, a financial expert or, you know, like, sort of a deep think…”
Jain: AI intelligence layer may capture half of enterprise value
“I know we do think that the intelligence layer is actually going to be a pretty thick one. Maybe, you know, it's, it will capture half of the enterprise value.”
Altman expects coding AI to execute multi-day tasks by 2026
“Codex has been a very cool thing to watch this year, and as these go from multi-hour tasks to multi-day tasks, which I expect to happen next year, what people be able to do to create Software at an unprecedented rate.”
Nadella: Workflow adaptation to AI will take about a year before max leverage
“And it's the unlearning and learning process that I think will take the next year or so. Then the headcount growth will come with max leverage.”
Huang: OpenAI and xAI will likely consume compute capacity internally
“I think they'll likely use it themselves and just in the case of X, they'll likely use it themselves.”
Huang: Google TPUs will inevitably transition to customer-owned tooling at scale
“Where will TPUs go when they, when it becomes a large business? Customer-owned tooling. There's no question about it.”
Gerstner: Donald Trump will reach a big deal with China
“The reason I'm confident and I've said on this pod, That I think he'll get a big deal done with China.”
Gerstner: Meta will stay committed to open source alongside proprietary models
“My hunch is that they're going to stay very committed to open source, but they may compliment it with a proprietary model. That would be my guess. As opposed to scrapping open source altogether.”
Gerstner: Invest America will generate net tax revenue in 20 to 30 years
“According to the studies that were done on this will actually be revenue contributing 20 to 30 years out because the taxes you have to pay when you exit the accounts on the capital gains will be more Than what the government is contributing on an annual basis …”
Philippe Laffont: Consumers will soon be able to automatically invest in bonds
“So I bet you that in the not too distant future, people will be able to automatically invest in bonds.”
Philippe Laffont: Cloud computing could see a dozen hyperscalers emerge
“You could have a world with more like a dozen hyperscalers than like the two or three that we've had before.”
Gerstner: Failing to pass reconciliation bill causes $4T tax hike
“In the absence of that, you get a four trillion dollar tax increase and markets go a lot lower.”