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Jensen Huang: GPU makers have no clue how to build accelerated computing
“Somebody who's really, really good at building GPUs have no clue how to be an accelerated computing company.”
Jensen Huang Oct 13, 2024 ▶ 45:34 Ep17. Welcome Jensen Huang | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Integrated personal data creates insurmountable switching costs for AI assistants
“If I have an AI partner where I can simply say, who did I send that email to? Like, that's really, really powerful. And I think the switching costs are insurmountable if someone gets to that place first.”
Bill Gurley Sep 25, 2024 ▶ 26:46 Ep16. Nuclear Update, AI Fast & Furious, State of VC | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Funding founder secondaries eliminates the primary incentive for tech IPOs
“And if you're going to be founder friendly and write big checks, guess what? You're going to be supportive of founder secondary. And you're going to be in for, you're going to be supportive of broad based employee secondary. When you do those things, you are t…”
Bill Gurley Sep 25, 2024 ▶ 39:51 Ep16. Nuclear Update, AI Fast & Furious, State of VC | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: Unnecessary $500M mega-rounds trigger secondary demands and erode employee retention
“You can't go raise another five hundred million and not have pressure from all your employees for employee secondary For spending more money on more projects, et cetera, and the NPV on those other activities will be lower, and the incentive your employees have…”
Brad Gerstner Sep 25, 2024 ▶ 54:57 Ep16. Nuclear Update, AI Fast & Furious, State of VC | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: Power is the primitive for AI and drives China's nuclear race
“Power is the primitive for AI, and that's why China is heads down in this race, and they're taking our technology, right, and they're, you know, they're improving it”
Brad Gerstner Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 29:13 Ep15: Inside Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: SaaS at 6x revenue is not automatically cheap as industries mature
“I hear people say oh my God, SAS is super cheap at six times revenue. And I'm like, you know, I've worked, I've seen industries mature where, where six ain't a stopping point, you know? And of course, you got to move on to net income and earnings and cashflow …”
Bill Gurley Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 8:45 Ep14. Public Market Volatility, AI Air Pocket, $GOOG Ruling | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Ability to Impose One-Sided Deal Terms Should Be Monopoly Test
“I've often said that I, that the federal government should Have a new test for a monopoly, and I, and this is very self-centered bias to someone who's been a venture capitalist working with small companies for a long time, but for over the course of the years,…”
Bill Gurley Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 1:02:38 Ep14. Public Market Volatility, AI Air Pocket, $GOOG Ruling | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: AI pseudo-acquisition licensing deals carry severe double taxation risk
“Two, as I understand it, there is a substantial double taxation risk, and if this is not the case, it's the thing I'd love for someone to educate me on, but the way the money makes it from the Mag-Seven to the investors, I think is two-step. One, the money is …”
Bill Gurley Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 1:21:06 Ep14. Public Market Volatility, AI Air Pocket, $GOOG Ruling | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: Proprietary AI startups face brutal competition against Meta's free models
“If you're a closed model company, the question first is, okay, I'm going to have to compete and keep up with this frontier level competition. That's hard enough. It takes a lot of resources, but number two, Mark's going to give it away. You know, meta is going…”
Brad Gerstner Jul 25, 2024 ▶ 34:31 Ep13. Silicon Valley’s Political 180, META AI, COVID Postmortem | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Flooding Sectors With Venture Capital Degrades Portfolio Returns
“Having crazy money in the market is not necessarily consistent with creating positive return for your venture capital portfolio. It can start to trend the other way. If you end up with hyper competition, if you end up where every single player has four hundred…”
Bill Gurley Jul 11, 2024 ▶ 27:05 Ep12. Tech Stocks vs the Rest; AI VC Bubble, Calcium CT Scan | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: AI tools act as competitive weapons without creating net income
“The problem I have with the first one is simply that, you know, my entire time in, in technology, like, these tools are competitive weapons. But if I get armed with them and my competitor gets armed with them, it doesn't necessarily increase. It doesn't create…”
Bill Gurley Jun 22, 2024 ▶ 11:53 Ep11. Coatue Conference Recap, Tesla & ISS Controversy | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Slow-Growth Private Companies Avoiding IPOs Are Acting Like Ostriches
“I often hear people on a board say something like, well, good thing we didn't go public, a good thing we aren't public. But they're sitting on the board of a private company that's at a hundred and fifty million in revenue and growing 10%. Like, you're, you ju…”
Bill Gurley Jun 22, 2024 ▶ 22:05 Ep11. Coatue Conference Recap, Tesla & ISS Controversy | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: Public market pressure forces companies to cut costs faster than staying private
“When the public markets gives you a sign, right, like it did Meta or Facebook in the fall of twenty-twenty-two when the stock goes to 90 dollars a share, right, there's nowhere to hide. You confront the brutal truth. You confront the reality. Public market inv…”
Brad Gerstner Jun 22, 2024 ▶ 22:41 Ep11. Coatue Conference Recap, Tesla & ISS Controversy | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Lafont: Large unicorn IPOs require $1B in revenue and breakeven path
“There's two criteria as one is, can you get to a billion of revenue? Open AI would be check, check, check the box. But the second one is, do you have a sort of a break even or a path to break even?”
Philippe Laffont Jun 22, 2024 ▶ 37:28 Ep11. Coatue Conference Recap, Tesla & ISS Controversy | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Raising mega-rounds forces high burn and obscures true unit economics
“You're going to have higher burn rates. And so you're going to know less about your unit economics, just by a natural fact, because you get further away when you're operating that way. And you can't raise four hundred million dollars and not have a high burn r…”
Bill Gurley Jun 10, 2024 ▶ 17:33 Ep10. Pre-IPO Market, AI Hype Cycle, Is Software Dead? | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: Economic value is in enterprise relationships, not AI models
“The value is not in the model. Right. Just like the value is not in storage. Right. You could say storage is a part of the AWS cloud, but that there's not a lot of value in that thing unto itself. The value is in the enterprise relationship. The value is in ri…”
Brad Gerstner Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 19:31 Ep8. AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterprise & Personal AI | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Compelling enterprise AI use cases rely on traditional ML, not LLMs
“When I meet a company and see them using AI in a way that feels like ultra compelling from us improvement of their own strategic business position, it's almost always a more traditional AI model that's running a very particular optimization problem. It's not a…”
Bill Gurley Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 31:35 Ep8. AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterprise & Personal AI | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Going public improves company performance and raises operational standards
“I have always believed, and I'm not the only one there, there's a assortment of other people in our industry, that being public is great for companies. It raises the bar in terms of their performance. It causes them to, I think, achieve more than they would ot…”
Bill Gurley Apr 18, 2024 ▶ 7:34 Ep7. The Great IPO Debate, Tesla Robotaxi v Uber, Tech Check | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Slow-growth private companies are worse off than equivalent public peers
“In fact, like because of a lack of liquidity premium, you're probably worth less than that public company and structurally, Your cap chart's more rigid, and so you have less flexibility. You can't do any acquisition. I mean, there's all kind of reasons why tha…”
Bill Gurley Apr 18, 2024 ▶ 16:26 Ep7. The Great IPO Debate, Tesla Robotaxi v Uber, Tech Check | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Owned AV fleets face an unwinnable peak versus average demand dilemma
“Are you going to build the fleet to average or peak? And by the way, you lose whatever your answer is. If you build it to average, you're not going to be able to serve your customers during the peak at all. Like they're only going to be disappointed. And if yo…”
Bill Gurley Apr 18, 2024 ▶ 52:23 Ep7. The Great IPO Debate, Tesla Robotaxi v Uber, Tech Check | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Enterprise Projects Often Relegate LLMs to Mere Database Interpreters
“A lot of the incremental work that's being done on AI projects are Stitching together external databases with the LLM and the LLM gets relegated to being an interpreter of the human or to being the interpreter of the data back to the human, but is not involved…”
Bill Gurley Apr 4, 2024 ▶ 7:05 Ep6. AI Demand / Supply - Models, Agents, the $2T Compute Build Out, Need for More Nuclear & More · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: Open Source Will Rapidly Commoditize Non-Frontier AI Models
“Apart from the people who are on the very frontier, if you're on the frontier and you have something totally different, it seems to me that that's a place where that is defensible. But if you're not on the frontier, man, it seems that these are going to be rea…”
Brad Gerstner Apr 4, 2024 ▶ 18:58 Ep6. AI Demand / Supply - Models, Agents, the $2T Compute Build Out, Need for More Nuclear & More · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: RSUs misalign management by preserving equity value during stock drops
“Here's where we get into questions of alignment with shareholders, because you could theoretically have a management team that leads a company, you know, over a year to a 20% decline and pick up 80% of the value of their equity award. Whereas shareholders are …”
Bill Gurley Mar 21, 2024 ▶ 16:28 Ep5. Stock Comp, AI Cold War, Valuations for LLM | BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Bob Mylod · Bg2 Pod
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Mylod: Ignoring stock compensation caused 15 years of runaway tech pay
“And for a tech company, oftentimes stock-based compensation happens to be the single largest expense component of a tech company. And yet somehow inexplicably, even though it's the largest single expense component of that company it is not considered to be eve…”
Bob Mylod Mar 21, 2024 ▶ 22:04 Ep5. Stock Comp, AI Cold War, Valuations for LLM | BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Bob Mylod · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: Pro-forming out equity compensation leads to severe resource misallocation
“When you don't, when you proforma something out, right, when you stop treating it like cash, right, it leads to a misallocation of resources because you're effectively saying this doesn't exist, and when you know, what happens when the cost of something disapp…”
Brad Gerstner Mar 21, 2024 ▶ 23:52 Ep5. Stock Comp, AI Cold War, Valuations for LLM | BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Bob Mylod · Bg2 Pod
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Mylod: Sinking 35% of free cash flow into SBC destroys company value
“If you dilute free cash flow by 30 to 35% every single year for 20 years, guess what? Your dilution is 35%, you know. It's not a half of, it's not 50 basis points, it's not one percent, it's not two percent, it's literally, you know, a third of the company.”
Bob Mylod Mar 21, 2024 ▶ 45:43 Ep5. Stock Comp, AI Cold War, Valuations for LLM | BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Bob Mylod · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: Enterprise switching costs reside in data gravity, not LLMs
“The switching cost is not with the LLM. I agree with you on this. The switching cost is really around where your data resides, right? We've heard this talked about data gravity.”
Brad Gerstner Mar 21, 2024 ▶ 1:24:02 Ep5. Stock Comp, AI Cold War, Valuations for LLM | BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Bob Mylod · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Moving search from ads to transactions causes a 10x revenue reduction
“You're not going to get to the same revenue per visit with a transaction model that you do with the ad model, because you already mentioned Cactale TV, people will pay using marketing math 4050, 60% of first purchase. With a transactional integration, they wan…”
Bill Gurley Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 48:28 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
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Levie: AI adoption is bottlenecked by compute costs, not architecture
“So like we're increasingly not limited by the architecture of the technology. And now we're just limited by like, can Jensen make these things cheaper? Can the, you know, can the engineers at open AI have more efficient model algorithms?”
Aaron Levie Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 1:09:53 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Multi-year AI memory is a huge unsolved economic bottleneck
“I do think this memory issue is a big, big deal, at least on the consumer side. So none of the major contenders today can remember who you are because it would require them. And I mean, remember over five years, 10 years to really become a personal assistant k…”
Bill Gurley Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 1:13:11 BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02 · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Megacap tech companies having the highest growth rates is unprecedented
“The largest companies in our world have some of the highest growth rates, and I think that's unprecedented.”
Bill Gurley Jan 25, 2024 ▶ 28:15 BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | MANG VC Gone Wild, Can You Trust AI Valuations? & More | E01 · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Startup Insider Bridge Rounds Almost Never Lead to Success
“One of the easy defaults you go to in the middle is, oh, I'll just go to my insiders and ask for a bridge. And I will tell you, at least all the data I've seen, the success stories coming off a bridge are few to none. That's why we always refer to them as pier…”
Bill Gurley Jan 25, 2024 ▶ 51:23 BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | MANG VC Gone Wild, Can You Trust AI Valuations? & More | E01 · Bg2 Pod
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Baker: Open-Source AI Growth Directly Benefits Hardware and Compute Providers
“It's actually really bullish for compute and hardware, because if the frontier models are capturing less of the margin, then you're gonna spend more on compute. So the better open source does, the better it is for compute providers.”
Gavin Baker Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 53:55 The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang · Bg2 Pod
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Turley: Quantitative Knowledge Work Will See Agentic Breakthroughs Due to RL Suitability
“I won't be surprised if you see this happen for other forms of sort of quantitative knowledge work, just because it happens to have the properties that code has. It's testable. You know if it worked or not. It's very RL friendly.”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 19:08 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
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Turley: Chat Is Ideal for Expressing Intent but Poor for AI Deliverables
“Chat is a great way of expressing your intent. It's a good way of communicating with the machine, but it's not a great output. Where in many cases, what you want back is an artifact.”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 21:44 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
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Turley: Lack of focus is OpenAI's biggest failure risk as AGI nears
“If you were to pre-mortem why a company like OpenAI does not achieve its mission, it's probably focus because of the sheer number of opportunities that become possible when you approach AGI, right?”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 46:36 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
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Turley: Writing skills will become more valuable in the AI era
“I think writing, actually is very important, and it's not because the AI can't write. You know, AI will become amazing at writing just like any other domains, but because I think the skill of writing forces you to be very clear of what you have to say. And eve…”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 57:50 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
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Nadella: Cloud AI success requires an efficient token factory and high fleet utilization
“When I look at sort of in the cloud infrastructure business, one of the key things you have to do is have two things. One is an efficient, like in this context, in a very efficient token factory, and then high utilization. That's it. There are two simple thing…”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 21:50 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Nadella: Running OpenAI workloads accelerates Microsoft's cost curve reduction
“When you have the biggest workload there is running on your cloud, that means not only are we going to learn faster on what it means to operate with scale, that means your cost structure is going to come down faster than anything else. And guess what? That'll …”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 48:58 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Nadella: AI circular financing will ultimately be tested by end-user demand
“And I think circularity ultimately will be tested by demand. Because all this will work as long as there is demand for the final output of it. And up to now, that has been the case.”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 52:21 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Nadella: AI gives software significantly higher marginal costs, forcing business model adjustments
“Overall, it is going to be true that there is a real marginal cost to software this time around. It was there in the cloud era too. When we were doing, you know, CD-ROMs, there wasn't much of a marginal cost. You know, with the cloud, there was. And this time …”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 59:54 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Nadella: AI chat unit economics differ fundamentally from search due to per-query GPU costs
“Search was pretty magical in terms of its ad unit and its cost economics, because there was the index, which was a fixed cost that you could then amortize in a much more efficient way. Whereas this one, you know, each chat to your point, you have to burn a lot…”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 1:01:02 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Fintech startups scale much faster on low-cost instant payment rails
“If you look at the history of the picks like alternatives, I mentioned in the UK and China and India, the startups that do financial innovation scale up way more aggressively and successfully on those rails that are cheaper and faster.”
Bill Gurley Oct 14, 2025 ▶ 43:55 AI Bubble, Stablecoin Boom, and Runnin' Down a Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Huang: Startups should capture entire nascent markets rather than entering mature ones
“You're supposed to create a startup before the market grows. You're not supposed to come up as a startup when the market's a trillion dollars large. You know, this fallacy, and all VCs know this fallacy that a large market, if you could just take a few percent…”
Jensen Huang Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 41:42 NVIDIA: OpenAI, Future of Compute, and the American Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Wu: Failed Enterprise AI Deployments Usually Lack Data Scaffolding
“My hunch is some of the enterprise deployments that don't actually work out likely don't have the scaffolding or infrastructure for these agents to interact with as well. A lot of the, like, really successful deployments that we've made, a lot of what our FDs …”
Sherwin Wu Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 24:41 Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Provincial leadership competition drives China's rapid industrial buildout
“One of the reasons that happens is the provincial leaders compete with each other. So the provinces are very competitive with one another, not in the same way the states are really. One of the reasons this is true is if you run a province and do well, you put …”
Bill Gurley Aug 28, 2025 ▶ 9:16 China, China, China. Breaking Down China’s Tech Surge | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: Blaming China's tech rise on theft breeds US complacency
“If we have this view, the only reason China's competitive or winning is because they're stealing or they're subsidized. I think what that view does is it allows us to delude ourselves into believing we don't need to get better ourselves.”
Brad Gerstner Aug 28, 2025 ▶ 45:30 China, China, China. Breaking Down China’s Tech Surge | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Open-Source AI Fuels Faster Hyper-Competition by Co-Training Models
“You just have a much more natural environment to have this kind of hyper competition that we talked about in EVs or solar, like having that many open source providers gives you that. I would say even maybe more because of the way the models can help one anothe…”
Bill Gurley Aug 28, 2025 ▶ 51:28 China, China, China. Breaking Down China’s Tech Surge | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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