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Token pricing
- ▶ 15:56 Benedict Evans You had to make for iOS and Android.
The spring updates on AI
- ▶ 5:55 Benedict Evans It's why Google create created Android.
- ▶ 28:58 Benedict Evans 19 92,009, in 2008, 2009, there were a lot of really, really clever people who thought Apple would get squashed by Android.
The end of the network effect
- ▶ 1:27 Benedict Evans Consumer computing has been based on network effects, that we had Windows and Intel, and then we had, with the web, we had Google, and then Facebook, and Amazon, and then the things that Facebook bought, and we had the iOS and Android,… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 5:35 Benedict Evans And Apple's in control, and the thousands of Android apps, and Google's in control, and they set the agenda, and everyone has to use iOS.
AI and SaaS
- ▶ 18:33 Benedict Evans We're going to force all of our app engineers to use Androids because they've all got their thousand dollar, you know, 700 dollar, 600 dollar iPhone. 2 times in the scene
A double episode: AI differentiation, and Apple does F1
- ▶ 40:01 Benedict Evans Well, Android is NASCAR and Apple is Formula One. 2 times in the scene
Looking for AI strategies
- ▶ 0:55 Benedict Evans Or you can pick up the iPhone, and Android, and BlackBerry, and Windows Phone, and Siri, and Memo, and MyGo, and like, all the stuff that was happening, and kind of think, well, they're trying to do this, and this product's trying to do…
- ▶ 5:59 Benedict Evans It's not like looking at iPhone and Android and saying, well, they've got these fundamentally different approaches to what they're trying to do and how they're building the product, and you're going to, as a consumer, this is why you would…
- ▶ 11:01 Benedict Evans Um, and yes, you can say at one level, you wouldn't really know the difference between iOS and Android, but there are pretty, pretty basic differences in how they work and what they do and what they're trying to do, and the very big…
Google's Antitrust case
- ▶ 2:48 Benedict Evans Um, now, however, there's something else, which is what the court case was about, which is that, um, everybody uses Google because it's the default, that when you type something in Safari or Chrome or on your iPhone or your Android phone, 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 7:29 Benedict Evans It might or might not be able to do it on Android, because is it Samsung choosing this or Google choosing this? 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 8:12 Benedict Evans Um, then we've got press reports saying that the DAJ might want to say that you have to spit out Android and Chrome. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 13:31 Benedict Evans On Android, you could imagine a startup pitching that to Samsung, pitching that to Motorola, pitching that to Verizon, and saying, make this the default thing, and we'll do a brokerage, and maybe it'll go to Google, maybe it won't, and…
- ▶ 36:15 Benedict Evans But again, like, well, yes, but breaking up Android and Chrome doesn't change Google's control of text ads.
The AI summer
- ▶ 35:11 Benedict Evans Say we're talking about smartphones in 2008 or nine, and there's a lot of big questions, like what's going to happen to BlackBerry, you know, what's going to happen to Android, you know, a bunch of clever people thought that Apple was… 2 times in the scene
Tiktok, Apple and Temu
- ▶ 4:34 Benedict Evans It's like, what does a Linux person or an Android person wish
Threads
- ▶ 19:20 Benedict Evans Go buy an Android phone and root it and install your own ROM.
Vision Pro, two weeks on
- ▶ 28:55 Benedict Evans Um, I mean, there was, it was a moment years ago when, um, Mark Zuckerberg, when, when Facebook was trying to do, this is the early days of Android, like, 2013, 14, so 10 years ago. 4 times in the scene
Working out AI questions
- ▶ 13:35 Benedict Evans When you, I mean, when you take a picture on your smartphone, whether it's iPhone or Android, there's a whole bunch of machine learning going on in the process of producing the image from the raw data that comes off the sensor.
ChatGPT versus Google
- ▶ 4:13 Benedict Evans Well, they have to have like done a partnership with a weather, with a weather company, or they have to have built like an integration with, with Android to work out what the weather is from all their Android friends or something, but… 2 times in the scene
No Soup for You! Regulating tech M&A
- ▶ 28:14 Benedict Evans Um, Android as well. 3 times in the scene
When the point of leverage changes
- ▶ 7:08 Benedict Evans So, and you know, it's like, if I can, if I buy an Android, I'll use this stuff. 2 times in the scene
Metaverse - how to be wrong in the right way
- ▶ 2:46 Benedict Evans So it wasn't 2007, it was, like, 2010, then the sales, and then the Android sales at the same time kind of really explode.
- ▶ 16:46 Benedict Evans And yes, you can, you could sit and say, oh, well, the apps on the iPhone are different from the apps on Android, but that's not, that doesn't mean they're not interoperable in any kind of important sense.
The future of Twitter
- ▶ 20:44 Benedict Evans And now the counter to this, of course, is people said this about iPhone versus Android, that, you know, Android crush iPhone. 2 times in the scene
Asking the dumb questions
- ▶ 7:23 Benedict Evans Is Android going to crush Apple or not?
What we know about web 3 so far
- ▶ 40:17 Benedict Evans That's when Android came out and the iPhone, which sales really exploded. 2 times in the scene
The Meta reality
- ▶ 5:21 Benedict Evans The iPhone and to mostly the same extent on Android, Facebook and everybody else are sort of on the sufferance of what Apple and Google want to let you do. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 30:50 Benedict Evans Much harder to recommend somebody buy an Android watch over an Apple watch, and that's because of all of that integration, that custom semiconductor, all the stuff that only Apple can do. 3 times in the scene
Metaverse - beyond the buzzword
- ▶ 22:26 Benedict Evans Is it open so that people will be able to trust it, which was the Android argument or the Linux argument, and so that people can work on it?
- ▶ 39:25 Benedict Evans And then iOS and Android are another wave of that.
Apple's metronome
- ▶ 19:19 Benedict Evans Um, and the challenge with that is you look at Android, and in particular you look at Chinese Android, where Google isn't in control either, and it's kind of tough to see stuff that you couldn't do under Apple's rules. 2 times in the scene
'Digital transformation' - beyond the silly slogan
- ▶ 24:27 Benedict Evans I mean, it's a completely different example is if you've only ever used an iPhone, and you try and use an Android, or you've only really ever used Android, and you try and use an iPhone, you will sit and swear and say, this thing is a… 2 times in the scene
Tech in china, from inside and outside
- ▶ 48:07 Lillian Li And I think that's because when I look around, um, relative to, you know, in, uh, the UK or SF, where I would say, you know, at least like, 70% of people around me is using an Apple phone, and maybe 30% is using Android, um, 2 times in the scene
Paying attention to Apple again
- ▶ 9:28 Benedict Evans And some of it is, yeah, it'll be useful if I have an Android phone.
- ▶ 12:22 Benedict Evans Um, and Apple and Google used to be friends before Google decided to create Android.
App stores: arguing like it's 2009
- ▶ 2:30 Benedict Evans The first of them is, um, the apps Apple, and to some extent, or not quite the same extent, Android, has what's called a sandboxed app store. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 12:21 Benedict Evans And so Google has been sort of systemically making Android more secure over time and more locked out over time.
- ▶ 24:04 Benedict Evans And, you know, this was, like, a theoretical issue, like, five years ago, at least, this is why Google created Android, because they were afraid of Microsoft doing this. 2 times in the scene
The FTC and Facebook
- ▶ 5:53 Benedict Evans Conversely, at the other extreme, the EU has said that Google has a monopoly on Android app stores.
- ▶ 10:09 Benedict Evans So they pay and or bully Android OEMs to include Chrome on Android phones. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 23:16 Benedict Evans In fact, I, I think I met like one person who used Android, and that's in the Valley. 2 times in the scene
How do you destroy a tech monopoly?
- ▶ 18:10 Benedict Evans So there's about a billion iPhones out there and about three billion Android phones, give or take maybe three and a half.
What the Apple and Facebook events tell us about their product cycles
- ▶ 11:01 Benedict Evans You didn't have to be a geek to know how to use it anymore, and if you look at, like, what smartphones were like before the iPhone, and, you know, I had lots of them, um, the best way to see what they were like is to look at the top…