“It is often better. And this is really controversial for a therapist. You know, you go to your therapist and you're like, is my boyfriend toxic? And the therapist might actually have to say, or to realize internally, it is better that this person remain in this relationship. For as long as it takes, no matter how painful it is, so that they actually learn the lesson for themselves, so they can make the decision for themselves, so they maintain their sense of autonomy, rather than, I try to solve this problem for them short term, I tell them the answer”
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