Jan 2, 2019 · 46m · a16z
a16z Podcast | Things Come Together -- Truths about Tech in Africa
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In this episode of the a16z Podcast, African technology leaders and researchers dismantle common misconceptions about the continent's tech ecosystem, examining infrastructure barriers, data-conscious software design, and the strategic advantages of local contextual knowledge.
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Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. The host holds 27.2% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
The host as informed peer 3.0 Guest teaching 6.0 Guest disagreement 3.9 The host pushing back 1.6
speaking balance: gold is the host, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 43:55 Calling BS on Mobile Statistics
Nanjira bluntly labels the widely cited statistic that more Africans have phones than toilets as BS, forcing the host to confess to using it herself.
Hardest push from the host ▶ 22:33 Reframing Consumption vs CreationThe host challenges the academic debate around mobile consumption versus creation by bringing up Steve Jobs and arguing that mobile ecosystems evolve beyond pure consumption.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 11:41 Smartphone Forecast CorrectionNkiru directly refutes the host's industry statistic of 930 million smartphones, clarifying that true smart devices sit near 100 million due to steep hardware costs.
The host holds their own ▶ 25:21 Comparative Tech Insights from AsiaThe host demonstrates strong comparative knowledge by introducing insights on high information density page designs in India and China under bandwidth constraints.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | The host as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | The host pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debunking the Homogeneous View of Africa | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1 | The host opens by inviting the guests to dismantle common western generalizations about Africa. The guests educate the host on regional trade blocs, cultural differences across 53 nations, and annoying tropes like three-week expats claiming expertise. | |
| Internet Access, High Data Costs, and Public Utility Models | 2 | 6 | 3 | 1 | When the host brings up mobile as an equalizer, Nanjira re-frames the discussion away from mobile-only views toward underlying infrastructure. Alan stuns the room by noting a seven-second YouTube video on South African 3G costs twenty US dollars, demonstrating extreme data cost barriers. | |
| Smartphone Penetration Realities and Alternative Access Methods | 3 | 7 | 4 | 2 | The host cites a projection of nearly a billion smartphones in Africa by 2019, which Nkiru immediately corrects by noting actual smartphone numbers are closer to one hundred million due to high price tags. Alan and Nanjira add depth regarding shared household devices and measuring data usage in minutes rather than megabytes. | |
| The Growing Middle Class and Entertainment Consumption | 4 | 6 | 4 | 2 | Nkiru rejects western media poverty tropes and highlights the aspirational nature of the growing middle class. The host draws a parallel to Steve Jobs and the iPad debate over content consumption versus creation on mobile devices. | |
| Mobile UX Design, Browser Needs, and Messaging Platforms | 4 | 5 | 3 | 1 | The host offers insights into Asian UI design contrasts, prompting guests to explain why mobile web browsers are preferred over data-heavy app downloads in high-cost markets. Alan shares real-world use cases, such as WhatsApp groups organizing local crime prevention. | |
| Local Advantage and Competing with Silicon Valley Giants | 3 | 6 | 5 | 2 | Alan forcefully cautions startups against directly competing with Silicon Valley giants due to massive capital imbalances, declaring it his golden rule. Nkiru and Nanjira explain that while capital can buy local talent, genuine ground-level operating knowledge remains a local moat. | |
| Gender Dynamics, Critical Metrics, and Concluding Thoughts | 3 | 7 | 5 | 2 | Nanjira directly calls out the viral statistic comparing mobile phone prevalence to toilet access as meaningless BS, which the host sheepishly admits to using. Nkiru also pushes back against trendy women in STEM discourse, arguing it unintentionally fosters inferiority complexes in young women. |
Statements from this episode (14)
Sambuli: Assuming South African business models scale across Africa causes failures
“So, you know, if you get your business working in South Africa, the model will work in Kenya, Nigeria. And so a lot of business mistakes are being made from that notion.”
Knott Craig: English-speaking sub-Saharan Africa is largely a homogeneous market
“From our perspective, we kind of very much kind of think, you know, at least from an English speaking perspective, sub-Saharan Africa is as close to a homogenous market as you can get.”
Knott Craig: African internet startups struggle due to low connectivity
“For the most part, any internet startup in Africa is really struggling to kind of get any traction in this local market because there's just not enough people on the internet.”
Knott Craig: Watching a 7-second 3G video in South Africa costs $20
“If you spend it, if you watch a seven second YouTube video on three G at South African data rates, it'll cost you about 20 dollars, 20 US dollars.”
Knott Craig: Google's blank search page is useless to new internet users
“You can't give people a clean Google page. It's absolutely meaningless for most of the communities we deal with.”
Knott Craig: African music service Spinlet will succeed due to music videos
“Music videos are just a killer category. Spinlet's gonna make lots of money.”
Sambuli: Pitting water against internet investment in Africa is short-sighted
“So do we invest in water or internet? It's starting to become a very... Short-sighted question, you know.”
Sambuli: Standalone mobile apps are not popular in Africa
“And apps are not that popular, really, actually. A lot of studies we've done, especially for you know applications for governance issues, they're not popular.”
Knott Craig: I presided over Mixit, Africa's biggest tech failure
“Well, so, you know, I have the questionable honor of residing over probably the biggest tech failure in Africa.”
Knott Craig: Tech startups should never compete against American tech giants
“One of the lessons is never, ever go up against American companies.”
Knott Craig: WhatsApp has permanently won the messaging market in Africa
“As soon as the smartphone kind of wave started breaking, you know, WhatsApp just won the race. It has won the race. It will win the race.”
Knott Craig: WhatsApp is the primary tool for community anti-crime organizing in South Africa
“In South Africa, we have a massive crime problem. So security is a big concern for a lot of people in South Africa. And WhatsApp has become the de facto means of communities organizing against crime.”
Knott Craig: Outside Silicon Valley, cash flow is the only startup metric
“A lot of people in South Africa and Africa and the rest of the world read those blogs and think that's the holy grail, but there's only one metric and that's cashflow. And advertising is not a business model. One day we'll sell to Google is not a business mode…”