Jan 2, 2019 · 16m · a16z

a16z Podcast | Earned Secrets

Ben Horowitz · 12m spoken Sharon Chang · 1m spoken
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In this a16z podcast episode recorded with intern network participants, firm co-founder Ben Horowitz shares strategic insights on tech platform shifts, startup fundamentals, venture capital dynamics, and practical career advice for aspiring entrepreneurs.

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The host as informed peer 2.3 Guest teaching 5.0 Guest disagreement 1.3 The host pushing back 0.8
05100:0010:002:30–4:39 · The host as informed peer 4/10 Navigating Early Career Decisions and Career Advice Traps Sharon prompts with early-career decisions and shares her own technical background as a RAID controller product manager. Ben advises against generic advice, pointing out that people give advice suited to themselves rather than the recipient.4:39–11:33 · The host as informed peer 2/10 Silicon Valley Invention and Future Platform Shifts Ben delivers an extended monologue on platform shifts and introduces the concept of earned secrets using the historical evolution of hotels and Airbnb. Sharon provides open prompts about co-founders and starting companies without pushing back.11:33–13:36 · The host as informed peer 3/10 Managing Founder Partnerships and Constructive Tension Sharon brings up Ben's quote about Mark Andreessen upsetting him daily to explore long-term partnership dynamics. Ben explains how constructive tension is required for personal growth before transitioning to audience questions.13:36–14:46 · The host as informed peer 0/10 Audience Q&A: Big Company Experience versus Early Entrepreneurship In response to an audience question about big company experience versus starting out directly, Ben frames entrepreneurship as mini-scientific discovery through Drew Houston's Dropbox story. Host activity is zero in this Q&A section.2:30–4:39 · Guest teaching 4/10 Navigating Early Career Decisions and Career Advice Traps Sharon prompts with early-career decisions and shares her own technical background as a RAID controller product manager. Ben advises against generic advice, pointing out that people give advice suited to themselves rather than the recipient.4:39–11:33 · Guest teaching 6/10 Silicon Valley Invention and Future Platform Shifts Ben delivers an extended monologue on platform shifts and introduces the concept of earned secrets using the historical evolution of hotels and Airbnb. Sharon provides open prompts about co-founders and starting companies without pushing back.11:33–13:36 · Guest teaching 5/10 Managing Founder Partnerships and Constructive Tension Sharon brings up Ben's quote about Mark Andreessen upsetting him daily to explore long-term partnership dynamics. Ben explains how constructive tension is required for personal growth before transitioning to audience questions.13:36–14:46 · Guest teaching 5/10 Audience Q&A: Big Company Experience versus Early Entrepreneurship In response to an audience question about big company experience versus starting out directly, Ben frames entrepreneurship as mini-scientific discovery through Drew Houston's Dropbox story. Host activity is zero in this Q&A section.2:30–4:39 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Navigating Early Career Decisions and Career Advice Traps Sharon prompts with early-career decisions and shares her own technical background as a RAID controller product manager. Ben advises against generic advice, pointing out that people give advice suited to themselves rather than the recipient.4:39–11:33 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Silicon Valley Invention and Future Platform Shifts Ben delivers an extended monologue on platform shifts and introduces the concept of earned secrets using the historical evolution of hotels and Airbnb. Sharon provides open prompts about co-founders and starting companies without pushing back.11:33–13:36 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Managing Founder Partnerships and Constructive Tension Sharon brings up Ben's quote about Mark Andreessen upsetting him daily to explore long-term partnership dynamics. Ben explains how constructive tension is required for personal growth before transitioning to audience questions.13:36–14:46 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Audience Q&A: Big Company Experience versus Early Entrepreneurship In response to an audience question about big company experience versus starting out directly, Ben frames entrepreneurship as mini-scientific discovery through Drew Houston's Dropbox story. Host activity is zero in this Q&A section.2:30–4:39 · The host pushing back 1/10 Navigating Early Career Decisions and Career Advice Traps Sharon prompts with early-career decisions and shares her own technical background as a RAID controller product manager. Ben advises against generic advice, pointing out that people give advice suited to themselves rather than the recipient.4:39–11:33 · The host pushing back 0/10 Silicon Valley Invention and Future Platform Shifts Ben delivers an extended monologue on platform shifts and introduces the concept of earned secrets using the historical evolution of hotels and Airbnb. Sharon provides open prompts about co-founders and starting companies without pushing back.11:33–13:36 · The host pushing back 2/10 Managing Founder Partnerships and Constructive Tension Sharon brings up Ben's quote about Mark Andreessen upsetting him daily to explore long-term partnership dynamics. Ben explains how constructive tension is required for personal growth before transitioning to audience questions.13:36–14:46 · The host pushing back 0/10 Audience Q&A: Big Company Experience versus Early Entrepreneurship In response to an audience question about big company experience versus starting out directly, Ben frames entrepreneurship as mini-scientific discovery through Drew Houston's Dropbox story. Host activity is zero in this Q&A section.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 3:05 Mocking generic career advice

Ben playfully dismisses conventional career advice by pointing out that young people often take guidance from unemployed friends who only know that single outcome.

Hardest push from the host ▶ 11:32 Bringing up partnership friction

Sharon directly prompts Ben with his past comment that Mark Andreessen frustrates him daily to challenge the idea of frictionless long-term partnerships.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 8:00 The earned secret origin of Airbnb

Ben reframes startup creation by explaining how Brian Chesky earned secrets through researching the century-long history of hotels rather than whiteboarding market gaps.

The host holds their own ▶ 4:17 Sharon's hardware PM background

Sharon establishes her own technical pedigree by sharing her experience as a product manager for RAID controllers in early tech to frame her question on tech reinvention.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicThe host as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementThe host pushing backWhy
Navigating Early Career Decisions and Career Advice Traps 4421 Sharon prompts with early-career decisions and shares her own technical background as a RAID controller product manager. Ben advises against generic advice, pointing out that people give advice suited to themselves rather than the recipient.
Silicon Valley Invention and Future Platform Shifts 2610 Ben delivers an extended monologue on platform shifts and introduces the concept of earned secrets using the historical evolution of hotels and Airbnb. Sharon provides open prompts about co-founders and starting companies without pushing back.
Managing Founder Partnerships and Constructive Tension 3512 Sharon brings up Ben's quote about Mark Andreessen upsetting him daily to explore long-term partnership dynamics. Ben explains how constructive tension is required for personal growth before transitioning to audience questions.
Audience Q&A: Big Company Experience versus Early Entrepreneurship 0510 In response to an audience question about big company experience versus starting out directly, Ben frames entrepreneurship as mini-scientific discovery through Drew Houston's Dropbox story. Host activity is zero in this Q&A section.

Statements from this episode (13)

Disclosure
Horowitz: Rival VCs heavily criticized Andreessen Horowitz's GitHub investment for overpaying
“This one probably got the most criticism, particularly from other VCs when we made it. It was, they way overpaid, you know, businesses like that will never be worth a, rational was, went for the most money ever in that space, and they'll never make their money…”
Ben Horowitz Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 0:51
Insight
Ben Horowitz: Developer tools are strategic because developers choose cloud platforms
“But that's now changed both kind of in market size and then also in strategic value because the developers are the people who decide what cloud you're going to use. And cloud is probably the biggest business to business market there is. So, you know, as a mark…”
Ben Horowitz Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 2:05
Insight
Horowitz: Career advice reflects the advisor, not the recipient
“So one of the traps on career advice is when you get it, you're not getting career advice for you. You're getting career advice for the person giving you the advice, and that may not be for you.”
Ben Horowitz Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 3:07
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ben Horowitz identifies AI, crypto, and bio as key future platforms
“And I think some of the things that we think are interesting are, for sure, AI, crypto, computational biology, engineered biology, and then the proliferation of computers as it relates to all of those.”
Ben Horowitz Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 5:21
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Horowitz: Computing will expand to 100 devices per person via wearables
“But then, you know, it's kind of gotten to one-to-one where, like, everybody has a smartphone, so everybody's got a computer, and it's going to go to kind of the other way, like one-to-a-hundred, where you've got wearable devices, your car's got lots of comput…”
Ben Horowitz Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 5:54
Insight
Horowitz: Young founders face network, hiring, and fundraising disadvantages
“I think if you're very young, then you have mostly disadvantages in starting a company in that you don't have that big a network. It's gonna be harder for you to hire really great people. It's gonna be harder for you to raise money.”
Ben Horowitz Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 6:47
Insight
Horowitz: Startups built by whiteboarding market gaps almost never succeed
“It's very rare that somebody goes, just like, whiteboards out like a market and goes, oh, this is a good blank space in the market, I'll go build that company. But those almost never work. The ones that work are some kind of earned secret.”
Ben Horowitz Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 8:25
Insight
Horowitz: Executive partners need constructive tension to challenge each other
“There has to be enough tension in the relationship that you're learning from each other, but not so much tension that you actually hate each other, and that's tricky. Like, if you're too friendly, then you never actually Ask, you know, a hard question to the o…”
Ben Horowitz Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 11:43
Insight
Ben Horowitz: Evaluate investors and hires on crisis response, not good times
“When everything goes great, you don't actually need it. Anybody can be okay, like any investor will be okay, and you know, it's the same with executives. The real question is when things go wrong, and they always go wrong, who's gonna, one, not hide under thei…”
Ben Horowitz Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 12:52
Insight
Horowitz: VCs who focus only on winning startups add little value
“There are VCs who are like, well, I'm gonna focus all my energy on the winners. Well, the winners don't even need your help.”
Ben Horowitz Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 13:19
Insight
Horowitz: Great startup ideas stem from solving specific hard problems
“Entrepreneurship is kind of like a mini-scientific discovery, so if you look at the history of science, like, most of the big discoveries weren't looking for what they found. They were trying to solve some hard problem, and then they stumbled into something el…”
Ben Horowitz Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 14:00
Insight
Horowitz: Warm VC intros demonstrate essential founder networking skills
“So if you get to the investor through somebody that they trust, that shows them something. Do you have a connect that's like real, that VC trusts, and I would try and go in that way, because that's going to mean something. They're going to take you more seriou…”
Ben Horowitz Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 15:01
Insight
Ben Horowitz: Building a company is inherently unfair and difficult
“Well, like, building a company is not fucking fair. That's not what it's gonna be. It's gonna be unfair. It's gonna be gnarly. It's gonna suck at times.”
Ben Horowitz Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 15:25
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