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Opinion
Sean Rad: Bumble is elitist and its women-first model hurts women
“Bumble. Is elitist. Why, you know, women go first. Women have all the control. Why? Who are, you know, like that, that is a, I actually, I'm not even sure that's good for women.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 41:31 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Sean Rad: Tinder decayed after the core team left and prioritized revenue
“Once, once the core team left, I think that promise that mission. Was maybe replaced with. A desire for retention and desire for revenue. And I think that, that this, the sort of intention of why we created that company, what we were trying to achieve got lost…”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 21:05 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Tinder's executive team threatened to quit unless Sean Rad returned as CEO
“There was one point where the entire executive team, unbeknownst to me, went to the board and basically said, if Sean doesn't come back in the CEO role, we're all quitting.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 27:31 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Sean Rad: Outsourcing dating to AI agents is the stupidest idea ever
“I think that is a very sad idea. I think the journey Is part of the reward. Me actually talking to someone, getting to know them, helps me learn about myself, helps me learn about them. It's not about a transaction. Romance is a journey. It's not just an ends …”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 44:51 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Contradicted
Sean Rad: Tinder enforced a rule to redesign the entire app yearly
“When I was there, when the team was there, we had a rule that every year we had to redesign the entire product because we didn't want people to get bored and stagnant, and we didn't want to become complacent as a team.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 0:07 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: Data from launching low-quality products is corrupted from the start
“If, you know, yes, you want to launch and get feedback, but if you launch a shitty product, what's the point? So I think there is a bar of quality that you still have to hit before that product is ready for people to play with. And if you haven't achieved that…”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 13:46 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: User retention is a misleading metric for actual product value
“Because I think when you're focused on retention, and you believe that retention equals value, You're, you can sometimes delude yourself because me spending hours doing something doesn't mean I extracted true value.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 18:02 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Sean Rad: Tinder refused to adapt for parent-arranged dating in India
“In India, it was Not really like there was a system of dating and marriage that was very much curated by your parents decide. And I think that was a moment in time where we were like, Hey, we could adapt the product to that, but actually no, we're not going to…”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 31:30 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Sean Rad: Nobody wants to use an app dedicated to making friends
“At some point, we also said, hey, let's create an app to help you make friends. And we very quickly learned that no one wants to open an app to make friends. Like that's a very desperate, weird experience.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 37:00 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Sean Rad: Swipe-and-match mechanisms do not work for business networking
“And then we said, well, could we apply Tinder's mechanism to business connections? And then we quickly learned, well, no one wants to swipe and match and make new business connections.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 37:18 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: Abundance of modern dating options leads to lower relationship commitment
“I think because we have more options than we have had in any moment in history, that increasingly we have the ability to switch and give up.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 58:50 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Sean Rad: Identity politics has invaded meritocracy
“I think we've had identity politics invade meritocracy.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 1:08:34 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad says top tech companies begin as passion projects, not missions
“Evan Spiegel in, in starting Snapchat or Uber and Twitter and all these companies that tend to have an impact on society. Or Facebook, they start out as little passion projects. They don't start out as missions to kind of change the world.”
Sean Rad May 26, 2017 ▶ 8:03 20VC: Tinder's Sean Rad on Why Humility Is The Key Trait For Founders To Have, Why Today's Incumbents Are Stronger Than Any Before Them & How Leaders Need To Scale With The Scaling Of Their Company
Insight
Sean Rad explains why modern tech giants are harder to disrupt
“The incumbents today were the disruptors. So they understand very, very well what it feels like and why disruption can happen to the incumbent because they did it. So I think they're, they have their guards up.”
Sean Rad May 26, 2017 ▶ 10:40 20VC: Tinder's Sean Rad on Why Humility Is The Key Trait For Founders To Have, Why Today's Incumbents Are Stronger Than Any Before Them & How Leaders Need To Scale With The Scaling Of Their Company
Opinion
Sean Rad: Shipping unrefined features without vision is a soulless effort
“The idea of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks is a very soulless, you know, effort. I don't subscribe to that.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 12:54 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Open
Sean Rad: Tinder banned employees from using terms like dating or marriage
“We actually had a rule. You were not allowed to say dating at Tinder. You were not allowed to call Tinder a dating app. You're not allowed to say marriage because we weren't about that.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 15:53 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Sean Rad: Facebook retains users by hacking desires to sell ads
“Facebook and social media is really good at retaining users and almost against your free will and hacking your desires and keeping you there. And they do that because they make money through advertising. And the more time they have with you, the more ads they …”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 18:38 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Contradicted
Sean Rad: Tinder had higher user retention than social media platforms
“And by the way, we have fucking phenomenal retention. You know, we had retentive powers beyond social media platforms.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 19:21 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: Connection quality matters more than retention or match volume
“Retention and the number of connections isn't as important as the quality of connections.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 20:15 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Sean Rad: Tinder launched an Instagram Stories equivalent before Instagram did
“So we created this product called moments. Which was sort of Instagram stories before Instagram stories. You could share a moment, like something you're doing in the real world, and it was an expiring, 24 hour moment, and people could reply to it, and your mat…”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 35:55 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: Tinder only charged for features that would degrade ecosystem quality
“Our perspective on paid features was the only reason we would charge you Is if charging you for that feature made the ecosystem better, meaning if we gave that capability to free to everyone, it would actually dilute the quality of the ecosystem.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 38:57 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: Debate builds meritocracy while cancel culture leads to bad outcomes
“One thing that is, that makes America the greatest country in the world is our openness to debate, and debate leads to better ideas, and it leads to a stronger meritocracy, and when you have a cancel culture where people don't feel safe to speak up and speak t…”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 1:10:45 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Sean Rad: Social media platforms violate user free will via algorithms
“I think right now social media platforms are to some extent violating my free will by algorithmically picking what content I see and not giving me choice in that equation.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 1:11:33 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Sean Rad: Follower-based social media feeds were healthier than algorithm-based ones
“When social media was a follower based economy, I think it was a lot healthier of an ecosystem.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 1:12:02 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Sean Rad argues app fatigue is the primary hurdle for mobile startups
“The excitement levels for consumers have been depleted. People don't want to download the next new app. So I think the bar has been raised extremely high for what the consumer will look at and say is cool and differentiate and want to tell their friends about.”
Sean Rad May 26, 2017 ▶ 9:44 20VC: Tinder's Sean Rad on Why Humility Is The Key Trait For Founders To Have, Why Today's Incumbents Are Stronger Than Any Before Them & How Leaders Need To Scale With The Scaling Of Their Company
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Swipe Ventures aims to acquire or invest in potential Tinder disruptors
“So part of what's the goal of swipe ventures is, is to think about what that next shift is and to make sure that we are either acquiring the next great platform that could disrupt us or that we're building it or, you know, we're making an investment in what we…”
Sean Rad May 26, 2017 ▶ 12:24 20VC: Tinder's Sean Rad on Why Humility Is The Key Trait For Founders To Have, Why Today's Incumbents Are Stronger Than Any Before Them & How Leaders Need To Scale With The Scaling Of Their Company
Insight
Sean Rad argues shared company values are more important than company mission
“I think values within a company, within a society, are more important than a common mission, or a common because I think the mission changes. As companies grow, as societies grow, but the values, and, you know, we, you know, we might disagree on the mission, a…”
Sean Rad May 26, 2017 ▶ 19:49 20VC: Tinder's Sean Rad on Why Humility Is The Key Trait For Founders To Have, Why Today's Incumbents Are Stronger Than Any Before Them & How Leaders Need To Scale With The Scaling Of Their Company
Insight
Sean Rad: Product-market fit is an iterative process, not a static moment
“So product market fit isn't one moment in time. Product market fit is a constant iterative process.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 13:25 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: Companies must continuously relearn to stay focused on core strengths
“And every lesson we learned, the lesson was always focus. Focus on your mission. Focus on what you're good at. Stop trying to be something you're not. Every company needs to continuously fucking relearn that.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 0:19 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: Founders perform better when separating identity from their company
“Founders are better when their company is not them because it's not about you.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 1:36 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: The greatest CEOs build companies that run without them
“So I think truly great leadership, you know, the greatest CEOs are the ones that. Are they're always available, killing, you know, pushing the company forward, but are building organizations that if they step away, can run without them.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 3:14 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: Tinder's double opt-in solved the emotional angst of digital connection
“What we call the double opt-in was the revolutionary thought behind Tinder, because every system of connection prior to that was riddled with this emotional angst and barriers to connection.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 6:31 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Supported
Tinder funded a USC college party requiring app downloads for entry
“So we told her, we're like, look, we'll, we'll pay for the party. We'll throw the party. But in exchange under one condition you have to do it at another location. So we shuttled all the students to another location where we had a bigger venue and we can invit…”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 10:08 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Rad: Founders overindex on marketing before having the right product
“Marketing's important, but I think this is another thing people sort of miss. They think, like, All right, I need to figure out how to get it out there, but they don't spend enough time focusing on whether or not they have the right thing to promote.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 11:36 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Sean Rad: Tinder operated on the belief that users give startups one shot
“We always believed in this, you know, Tinder, we always believe we have one shot. There isn't a second chance with users. We have one shot to impress them, and if so, so we have to make that one shot count. And we would not take that shot until we're very read…”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 14:15 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: Large companies die from complacency when self-disruption stops
“If you don't keep disrupting and you don't keep setting the bar higher and higher and higher, you will achieve complacency and complacency, which is a lot of big companies sort of die by complacency.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 22:26 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Rad: Great founders step aside when someone else can scale better
“I actually think great founders put the company before themselves and are intellectually honest and self-aware enough to say, Hey, you know what? Maybe I've taken it to this point and there's someone else better than me to take it to the next point.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 24:20 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: Localization requires adapting product features to regional cultural norms
“In the beginning, in the early days, we thought localization meant that the language of the app had to adapt to the language of the user, but localization is much more than that. Because particularly around social human connection and relationships, there are …”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 29:26 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Rad: Has quietly founded four companies since leaving Tinder
“I've started four companies since Tinder.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 51:27 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Sean Rad made an early, major investment in SpaceX
“Probably SpaceX. Invested a lot in SpaceX very, very early.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 55:01 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad outlines the linear progression of thriving romantic relationships
“To me, it's like one thing leads to another. When you have honesty, you have trust. When you have trust, you have laughter. When you have laughter, you have sex.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 1:01:09 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: Capital alone does not create innovation or prevent disruption
“Money, money doesn't solve, money doesn't create innovation. I think if money resulted in innovation, then You would never have disruption.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 1:03:31 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sean Rad: Excess capital causes startup failure by stifling creativity
“There's many startups that actually failed because they raised too much money and they threw money at the problem and they threw people at the problem and they didn't actually tussle or force themselves to think out of the box or get creative and find new ways…”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 1:04:12 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Sean Rad: Tinder investors encouraged founders to take secondary liquidity
“So we did take money along the way and our investors wanted us to do that because I think they realized that. That if we alleviated some of that pressure, then we can go even harder.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 1:05:15 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Sean Rad prioritizes humility above all other traits when evaluating founders
“And I think a lot of my investment thesis is formed out of what I've experienced building Tinder and kind of reflecting on what values got us here. And to me, I gravitate towards founders and teams that are number one, Humble. They have a healthy degree of hum…”
Sean Rad May 26, 2017 ▶ 4:52 20VC: Tinder's Sean Rad on Why Humility Is The Key Trait For Founders To Have, Why Today's Incumbents Are Stronger Than Any Before Them & How Leaders Need To Scale With The Scaling Of Their Company
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sean Rad predicts user interfaces will shift to predictive answer engines
“So I think what ends up happening over time as technology gets better is that We enter a world where the consumer has to do less work to get the result. And then I think as a result, interfaces are going to start to shift from interfaces where I input informat…”
Sean Rad May 26, 2017 ▶ 15:43 20VC: Tinder's Sean Rad on Why Humility Is The Key Trait For Founders To Have, Why Today's Incumbents Are Stronger Than Any Before Them & How Leaders Need To Scale With The Scaling Of Their Company
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sean Rad predicts AI and AR will make Tinder simpler
“And then I would say on a five-year horizon, it would be to continuously make Tinder even more simple. And I know that that sounds crazy because Tinder is already very simple, but I think as technology gets better, as the ways we interact with, as AI and AR co…”
Sean Rad May 26, 2017 ▶ 22:04 20VC: Tinder's Sean Rad on Why Humility Is The Key Trait For Founders To Have, Why Today's Incumbents Are Stronger Than Any Before Them & How Leaders Need To Scale With The Scaling Of Their Company
Assertion Supported
Tinder's launch text campaign generated 700 signups from 500 contacts
“And I think in total we texted 500 people. Over the course of a few days We had, I think it was like, 700 signups.”
Sean Rad Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 7:48 Sean Rad: Lessons Scaling Tinder to the Fastest Growing Consumer Social App in History | E1199 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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