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Startup failure stems from inferior solutions, not a lack of demand
“The issue is rarely demand. The issue normally is the solution that you've come up with is not significantly better than the alternatives that are out there. And if it's not significantly better than the alternatives, people won't switch to your product.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 13:44 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Startups need 50 to 100 attempts to reach product-market fit
“You will probably need to do between 50 and a hundred attempts before you get to product market fit.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 21:17 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Product teams can validate or invalidate ideas within hours
“Most of the time we can figure out in hours that this is not right. Hours, sometimes minutes. In fact, it's not unusual to do a dozen iterations in a day.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 23:18 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Qualitative research should find product flaws, not seek affirmation
“With qualitative feedback, your goal is to find all the things that are wrong with the product. So that's the difference. You're not looking for affirmation, which is what these, you know, naive founders are doing. They're not, you're not doing that. You're ac…”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 25:44 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Using engineers only to code yields half their potential value
“If you're just using your engineers to code, you're only getting about half their value.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 52:50 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Feature teams operate as mercenaries, whereas empowered teams own outcomes
“In an empowered team, you are literally giving ownership responsibility to the team. And so that they build those skills. They build that confidence. They build those muscles in a feature team. They're literally just mercenaries doing what they're told.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 1:03:23 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Great products come from product teams, not individual product managers
“I've never seen a product come from a product manager. I've only seen great products come from product teams.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 0:42 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Startups must hire product managers when engineering reaches 25 to 30 people
“Realistically, once you get past about 25, 30 engineers, a founder is saying like, I, or the teams are saying, I can't get enough time with the founder.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 32:36 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Empowered engineers are foundational to top tech companies like Tesla and Apple
“There is nothing more than, more important than empowered engineers. And if you look, you know, if you look at companies like Tesla, SpaceX, Google, Amazon, Stripe, Apple, that's the foundation of every one of those companies, empowered engineers.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 53:02 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Big Tech success does not guarantee success at new startups
“They get somebody from Amazon, they get somebody from Stripe, somebody that's clearly experienced what good looks like. But then they assume that just because they were successful there, that they're going to be successful in our company. And that's not a true…”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 56:14 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Product teams are ultimately responsible for sales performance
“And the bottom line is the responsibility for the sales is on the product team.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 57:37 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Writing product narratives forces deep thinking and accelerates execution
“Like Stripe, Amazon, they believe think deeply to really. So for example, the written narrative is a way to force you to really think Think things through and then you're gonna move a lot faster.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 1:02:12 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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The essence of product discovery is knowing what you cannot know
“The most important thing is to know what you can't know. And isn't that essentially a lesson in humility, right? It's like you need to know what you can't know, because that is really the essence of product discovery.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 5:01 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Founders gravitate toward risks they feel comfortable with
“Most founders gravitate to the risks they're more comfortable with.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 10:28 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Value risk is usually the hardest challenge in product discovery
“The first one is. Is it valuable? In other words, will people buy it or if they've already bought it or if it's a free service, will they choose to use it? That's the value question. Usually that's the hardest one, not always, but usually it's the hardest one.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 15:15 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Product vision is a startup's primary tool for attracting top talent
“The biggest reason somebody great would join your company is because of your product vision.”
Marty Cagan Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 36:16 Marty Cagan: Product Lessons from Steve Jobs and Elon Musk; Why do we idolize engineers? | 20VC #957 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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