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Arison: Application-layer AI companies will be overtaken by infrastructure AI
“I believe that AI is going to be more at an infrastructure level layer as a solution rather than at a product level, if that makes any sense. Like, I think application layer companies and products ultimately are going to be overtaken by an infrastructure layer…”
Arison: AI agents dating each other to pre-screen matches will happen
“Yeah, I said that six months before she did, so I think it's totally gonna happen.”
40% of gay relationships in the US start on Grindr
“It's still, it's now the largest source of gay relationships in the United States. So four in 10 gay relationships start on Grindr.”
Grindr per-user daily message volume surpasses WhatsApp
“And we had a hundred and twenty five billion approximately messages sent in the app last year. That's about 50 messages Per person per day which is more than WhatsApp messaging in a given day per, per user.”
Arison: Grindr will launch 'RightNow' feature globally in late 2025
“The really big product we're going to be launching, you know, worldwide sometime towards the end of next year, it's now live in two markets today. It's called RightNow, which is actually making the hookup experience better and more easy for a user to access.”
Arison: Healthcare offerings will generate higher revenue for Grindr than travel
“I think if healthcare works it will be very large, because if you just do the math on it, right, like, a compound ED medication costs a hundred to a 130 dollars per month subscription and, you know, people, I think, average Kind of lifetime value of a user is …”
Arison: Grindr spends zero dollars on paid user acquisition
“We don't spend any money on marketing, and the reason is, is we don't do any acquisition marketing. So our marketing is focused on, on brand building, and we do a lot of stuff in social, narrow casting to, again, gay and bi men. But it's a lot of storytelling …”
Arison: Grindr has under 150 employees and $2M revenue per head
“Grindr has less than a 150 full time employees. We are very, very efficient. You know, our revenue per head is very high. It's over two million bucks per full time employee.”
Arison: Grindr overhead costs will remain flat as revenue reaches $1B
“Because we're a public company and all the costs that public companies have, we still have to have, and we'll have them at 300 plus million and we'll have them at a billion in revenue. And they're mostly going to be the same. Like the accounting team is not go…”
Arison: Grindr's entire engineering team quit after its 2020 acquisition
“And even more crazy, the entire engineering team, which was at this point was in Taiwan, quit when the transaction happened.”
Arison: Tech industry will need narrow AI agents before universal AI
“My initial perspective was, oh, like, we'll be able to get to like that one agent quickly and like, and let's go work on that. But actually, I think you're going to need these like smaller agents first that are more narrow in their nature before we can go to t…”
Arison: Grindr shipped 500k CDC home HIV tests, 30% first-timers
“A year and a half ago, we started working with the CDC to allow people to order an HIV test to be shipped to their home to get an HIV test. We've sent out about half a million tests since then, which is really incredible. And more importantly, 30% of people wh…”
Arison: Grindr can hit 3-year targets without Tinder's payer conversion rate
“We don't need to be at anywhere near Tinder's pay penetration to hit our, say, three-year financial targets.”
Arison: Grindr will launch new products using lean 1-2 person partnership teams
“We're going to launch a bunch of new stuff this year, but a lot of it's going to be done through partnerships with one or two people working on those things.”
Arison: Ads represent 15% of Grindr revenue without app store fees
“Ads are about 15% of our revenue in, in total, but obviously on a margin basis, they're even higher percentage, because it's a very profitable part of the business, and we don't have to pay the Apple and Google taxes on that revenue.”
Arison: Grindr will not hoard cash for potential acquisitions
“So one thing I can say is very clearly, we're not going to hoard cash for acquisitions. If there are acquisitions that are interesting at some point that we want to do, We'll, we'll deal with that at that point, but I don't think it's the right thing to do to …”
Arison: Grindr was the first forced divestiture ordered by CFIUS
“And so they forced the divestiture and was like the first CFIUS forced divestiture and definitely the most prominent one that had ever happened.”
Grindr reaches over 14 million active monthly users
“I mean, we're at over fourteen million Active monthly users now.”
Grindr users average one hour per day on the app
“People spend on average an hour a day in the app, which is really remarkable.”
Arison: 25% of Grindr users travel in any given week
“25% of Grindr users, so one in four is traveling in any given week which is a really remarkable thing to think about, given that, you know, in the U.S., average person It takes two vacations a year in a car to visit like family, 60 miles away or something.”
Arison: Grindr generates no revenue from HIV tests or PrEP
“We don't make money on on HIV tests cause CDC actually sends those to people for free. And we don't make money on prep cause we don't sell prep. There are companies that do sell prep. We just do education and marketing plan.”
Arison: Grindr has over 95% brand recognition in the US
“We have a 95 plus percent name recognition in the US.”
Arison: Grindr's payer penetration rate is slightly over 7%
“Our pair penetration is about a little over seven percent.”
Arison: Homosexuality remains illegal in 60 countries worldwide
“There's still 60 countries around the world where it's illegal to be gay”