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Edwin Chen considers company acquisition an admission of failure
“Because yeah, getting acquired would be really limiting. It would be this admission of failure and jumping ship because you can't make it on your own anymore.”
Edwin Chen Jul 21, 2025 ▶ 38:43 Surge CEO & Co-Founder, Edwin Chen: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with NO Funding · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Edwin Chen: Most AI data competitors are body shops masquerading as tech
“I think a lot of the other companies in our space, they're just not technology companies at the end of the day. They are either body shops or they are body shops masquerading as technology companies.”
Edwin Chen Jul 21, 2025 ▶ 10:30 Surge CEO & Co-Founder, Edwin Chen: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with NO Funding · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Edwin Chen: Silicon Valley fundraising is mostly a status game
“I think one of the things that's always driven me crazy about Silicon Valley is that it really is just a status game for most people. Like, People are just raising for the sake of raising. Their goal isn't to build some great product that solves an idea that t…”
Edwin Chen Jul 21, 2025 ▶ 18:10 Surge CEO & Co-Founder, Edwin Chen: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with NO Funding · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Chen: Competitors treat AI data purely as supply, ignoring technology
“There are some companies in this space who will simply think of it as a pure supply problem, and they don't give any consideration to the technology, like both the technology, the underlying technology, like, how do you identify these people? How do you make s…”
Edwin Chen Jul 21, 2025 ▶ 24:47 Surge CEO & Co-Founder, Edwin Chen: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with NO Funding · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Edwin Chen: AI teams are abandoning body shops for high-quality data
“I mean, so I would say I'm pretty sure that a lot of these other companies, they are Like at the end of the day, people want high quality data and they don't want to be working with body shops. And so. I think we've seen, like, a massive wave interest because,…”
Edwin Chen Jul 21, 2025 ▶ 36:20 Surge CEO & Co-Founder, Edwin Chen: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with NO Funding · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Edwin Chen: LMSYS Chatbot Arena is the equivalent of clickbait
“So LM Arena is this popular leaderboard of LM models, and it's basically the equivalent of clickbait.”
Edwin Chen Jul 21, 2025 ▶ 45:42 Surge CEO & Co-Founder, Edwin Chen: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with NO Funding · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Edwin Chen: Dismissing AI safety ignores current issues like benchmark hacking
“So I think a lot of people think AI safety is overblown, but I think they ignore the paperclip maximizer problem where you have AI models that are accidentally trained towards the wrong objectives, even though this is a big problem that all the models face tod…”
Edwin Chen Jul 21, 2025 ▶ 58:56 Surge CEO & Co-Founder, Edwin Chen: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with NO Funding · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Edwin Chen: Half of computer science graduates cannot code
“I think half of the people who graduate with a CS degree, they can't even code.”
Edwin Chen Jul 21, 2025 ▶ 12:54 Surge CEO & Co-Founder, Edwin Chen: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with NO Funding · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Edwin Chen: 90% of startups should build an MVP before raising capital
“Yeah, for a 90% of companies, no. Like, sure, there are some companies where you actually do need a lot of capital in order to build hardware or, like, whatever it is for a couple years. Like you really need a lot of investment before, before you before you ca…”
Edwin Chen Jul 21, 2025 ▶ 20:11 Surge CEO & Co-Founder, Edwin Chen: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with NO Funding · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Chen: 80% of CS PhDs write poor code
“I think 80% of the computer science PhDs I know, they write shitty code because they're only good at math and algorithms.”
Edwin Chen Jul 21, 2025 ▶ 40:59 Surge CEO & Co-Founder, Edwin Chen: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with NO Funding · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Edwin Chen: AI Cannot Write 50% of Meaningful Enterprise Code
“I don't think models today can write 50% of the code and, you know, come up with 50% of the ideas that, that people are, that are actually going to be meaningful to your company.”
Edwin Chen Jul 21, 2025 ▶ 1:01:06 Surge CEO & Co-Founder, Edwin Chen: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with NO Funding · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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