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Prediction Open · timeframe Aug 2034
Narayanan: AI model scaling cycles are ending
“We're not gonna have too many more cycles, possibly zero more cycles, of a model that's almost an order of magnitude bigger in terms of the number of parameters than what came before, and thereby more powerful.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 0:00 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: Skeptical GPT-5 will yield a leap comparable to GPT-4
“Are we going to see a GPT-V that's as big a leap over GPT-V as GPT-V was over GPT-V? I'm frankly skeptical.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 5:44 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: Recursive AI scaling using synthetic data will not work
“And the other way to look at synthetic data is, okay, you take one trillion tokens, you train a model on it, and then you output 10 trillion tokens, so you get to the next bigger model, and then you use that to output a hundred trillion tokens. You know, I'll …”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 8:55 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: AI bots influencing elections with misinformation is not a real danger
“So people have been worried, for instance, about bots creating misinformation with AI and influence in elections and that sort of thing. We're very, very skeptical that that's going to be a real danger.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 29:51 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Held up
Narayanan: Restricting global access to AI models will fail
“Even if one country decides that models should be closed, the odds of getting every country to enact that kind of, ah, ah, rule are, you know, just vanishingly small. So if our approach to safety with AI is going to be premised on ensuring that quote unquote b…”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 42:54 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: No AI model has meaningfully surpassed GPT-4 in 18 months
“And what we've seen in the nearly year and a half since GPT-IV came out is that we haven't really had models That have surpassed it in a meaningful way.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 44:46 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: Fears of spontaneous AI consciousness have no basis in reality
“When we look at the way that AI is architected today, that kind of fear has no basis in reality. Maybe one day in the future, you know, people are going to build AI systems where that becomes at least somewhat possible. And we should, you know, we should have …”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 45:41 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: AI models have exhausted accessible training data
“These models are already trained on essentially all of the data that companies can get their hands on.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 5:06 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: YouTube transcript text is an order of magnitude smaller than current AI training sets
“A hundred and fifty billion hours of video sounds, you know, really impressive. But when you put that video through a speech recognizer and actually extracts the text tokens out of it and deduplicated and so forth, it's actually not that much. It's an order of…”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 6:31 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Narayanan: Enterprise AI deployment will be very slow
“It's got, you have to actually deploy AI to be able to get to certain types of learning, and I think that's gonna be very slow, and I think the a good analogy is self-driving cars, of which we had prototypes, you know, two or three decades ago, but for these t…”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 11:19 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Open · timeframe Aug 2029
Narayanan: Lower AI inference costs will increase total enterprise AI spend
“And I predict that we're going to see the same thing with models when models get cheaper. They're put into a lot more things, and so the total amount that companies are spending on inference is actually going to increase.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 14:02 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: Exponential AI growth will flatten and models will commoditize
“So I think that's going to happen both with models as well as with these hardware cycles. You know, I can't predict how long that's going to take, but we are, I think, going to get to a world where models do get commoditized.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 17:35 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: OpenAI focuses on products as researchers depart to Anthropic
“Folks focused on superintelligence didn't feel very welcome at the company, and there has been an exodus of very prominent people, and Anthropic has picked up a lot of them. So it seems like we're seeing a split emerging where OpenAI is more focused on product…”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 22:49 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: No reliable method exists to detect AI-generated text
“There's no way really to catch AI-generated text or homework answers.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 35:34 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: AI developers over-optimize models for benchmarks over real-world performance
“When there is so much pressure to do well on these benchmarks, developers are intentionally or unintentionally optimizing these models In ways that look good on the benchmarks, but don't look good in real world evaluation.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 18:25 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: AI tools will not become the default way people learn anytime soon
“I'm very skeptical that these new kinds of learning are going to get to a point anytime soon where they're going to become the default way in which people learn.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 40:17 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: Nvidia is trying aggressively to migrate from hardware to services
“I do find it interesting that NVIDIA itself Has been trying to migrate really, really hard out of hardware into becoming a services company.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 47:47 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: Inference costs dominate training costs for popular AI models
“Over the lifetime of a model, when you have billions of people using it, the inference cost actually adds up, and for many of the popular models, that's the cost that dominates.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 15:33 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: AI proliferation will force people onto trusted news sources
“That's right. So that, that actually is our prediction. People we predict are going to be forced to rely much more on getting their news from trusted sources.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 31:08 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Narayanan: Near state-of-the-art AI on personal devices will accelerate
“We have you know, close to state of the art AI models that can already run on people's personal devices, and I think that trend is only going to accelerate.”
Arvind Narayanan Aug 28, 2024 ▶ 42:40 Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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