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Many enterprise customers say Microsoft Copilot is falling flat
“Look at like Microsoft Copilot, I mean, Many customers are saying it's falling flat. Like, it's just not delivering the value that was advertised.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 26:42 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Early-stage sales teams should not segment or rush upmarket too early
“I think the worst thing you can do early stage as a sales organization and a go to company is segment too early and move way up market and just like, let's say we rewind the clock. If I all of a sudden moved all my sellers to just focus on the Fortune 50 or Fo…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 17:20 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Enterprise AI tools without clear ROI will churn within two years
“AI budgets that are based on just, hey, we need to quickly enable our employees to be AI-centric that aren't tying it back to business outcomes, impact, Top line, bottom line. A year from now, two years from now, we're going to churn.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 23:47 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Enterprise AI implementation takes 6-12 months or $5M in services
“Everyone is being sold A bag of goods and a dream of this sort of AI enabled workforce or Automation, top line, bottom line, and then when it comes to implementation, it's taking six, nine, 12 months, or it comes attached with a five million dollar services bu…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 26:02 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Not publicly verifiable
Glean withholds AE commissions unless deployment success plans are completed
“I took a page out of Dave Schneider's book from ServiceNow and We're implementing a system where we're not paying AEs on their deals unless they have an approved deployment success plan filled out.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 27:43 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Glean ties CSM compensation to user activity rather than direct upsells
“We're actually tying the compensation of our CSMs not to an upsell. I guess it's sort of embedded into the NDR piece, but it's frankly more about, are you getting users active?”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 29:10 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Vertical software AI add-ons will suffer high churn
“I also, I think that you're gonna see it, for example, like, there's some of these vertical solutions that have layered on to AI and sold a big story on, hey, you're already you know, paying X with us. We can accelerate you to go faster. I don't think some of …”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 33:38 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Slack lost to Microsoft by over-relying on product-led growth
“We lost the distribution war at Slack. I think part of why we lost that war was, yes, like, monopolistic behavior by Microsoft, but Because we didn't lean into other effective fast distribution strategies other than PLG.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 1:03:56 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
AJ Tennant: Sales skills are entirely learnable, not innate personality traits
“I fundamentally believe they can be learned. You know, I think a lot of people would say it's innate, you know, you, you're born with it, it's that your personality, someone that's outgoing, but my philosophy is that pretty much humans can learn anything if th…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 0:58 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tennant: Best Account Executives Do Their Own Outbound Prospecting
“Absolutely. We at Glean, you know, we have a, you know, and every company I've been a part of, like, I want AEs to be joining, expecting that they have to do outbound, and they're not going to have a BDR. Now, the reality is, is you're going to have a lot of h…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 4:21 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
AJ Tennant: Sales playbooks overcomplicate sales, which is fundamentally simple execution
“My view is that playbooks are really, it's like a fancy word for what is your strategy? What is your outbound messaging? Like, what is your plan? Like a play, so I guess, you know, it can be semantics a little bit, but what I view is sales is very simple. You …”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 5:09 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Founders must lead sales directly from zero to $10M ARR
“I think that the founders need to be very involved, and the CEO needs to be very involved in that, that zero to ten million On, on kind of like how you're getting those initial customers to product market fit”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 6:23 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
AJ Tennant: Mature founders shouldn't dictate granular sales plays or messaging
“There's a stage at which you need to have that founder and CEO not necessarily, like, be deciding exactly what is the messaging, exactly what is the sales play that you're running, and they need to, you need to leverage them, but they shouldn't be the one dete…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 7:04 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Selling to Fortune 100 and SMBs simultaneously will kill early startups
“If you all of a sudden are trying to go to the fortune 100, and also sell to SMBs, you're gonna fail.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 7:55 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sales teams should remain generalists until hitting $200M to $250M revenue
“I hear that argument. I still think staying generalist is important until you get to a certain scale. I think you need to be at 200,000,250 million to go that granular because Just the number of AEs that you need to hire to get to vertical, just become, and it…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 20:24 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tennant: Regional Generalist AEs Beat Sector Specialists for Global Accounts
“I think that you can solve that by educating Some of the other generalists AEs because the problem with it is sometimes, you know, those telecoms are all over the world, right? And you're not going to have one AE who's based in the, you know, the Bay Area be a…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 21:36 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Tennant: Enterprises spend $5M-$10M annually on non-experimental AI initiatives
“Like, you've got a couple of these big, big brands and companies that are doing AI in the right way that's actually impacting their top line or bottom line already that isn't experimental, right, and they're willing to spend, some of those accounts are willing…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 24:34 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
AJ Tennant: Gross retention rate is the most critical enterprise SaaS metric
“Most important for me is GRR. Why? Churn. Like, the ripple effects of having an account in, especially in the enterprise space, churn, it, it's the viral negative network effect that happens.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 32:01 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
AJ Tennant: Fast product launch and active usage make SaaS retention trivial
“Because if you nail in a systematic way time to launch quickly and you get active users, GRR is just an afterthought. It's going to be, it's not going to be a problem, right? If you have people using the service and they're using, getting deployed quickly.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 32:56 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tennant: Comping BDRs on closed-won deals takes too long
“Comp BDRs on not net new opportunities, but comp them on closed one. I think it's too far and too long of a thing to do”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 34:37 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tennant: Product and sales drive tech, non-engineers should pick sales
“In technology companies, and this might be controversial because like, you know, this is like putting aside like all the other things that make these companies go. There is product. And then there is sales. Like, what drives technology companies and most busin…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 44:52 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
AJ Tennant: Coin-Operated Sales Reps Are the Ones You Shouldn't Hire
“The sales reps that are coin operated are the ones you don't want to hire. The sales reps that have that insightful IQ that you talked about want career development. They want challenges. They want to figure out how to get, like, coached and mentored. That's w…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 46:10 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
AJ Tennant: Panel interviews are essential for testing sales candidate IQ and EQ
“I think that a hiring panel is equivalent to You showing up to a customer meeting, and there's three or four people that are in the room that you are presenting to. A hiring, like a panel presentation is, for me, an opportunity to see how someone is going to h…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 46:42 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Tennant: Glean maintains an all-time sales turnover rate of around 20%
“We have about, ah, all time, like a 20% turnover rate.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 52:08 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tennant: Ability to manage collaborative tension is essential in hyper-growth startups
“If you can't do that effectively, then you need, you can't be a part of these hyper-growth companies, because that's what they need to make progress.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 54:24 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
AJ Tennant: Skipping sales enablement hurts startup performance in the long run
“Founders and sales leaders that have the mentality that I have like had back then who are just like, let's hire the best reps. They can figure it out. It, it's gonna hurt you in the long run”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 57:04 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tennant: Effective standard goals are beatable while stretch goals target 80% completion
“No. Effective goals are goals that you can achieve and you can outperform. I think that effective stretch goals Are ones that you can only get to 80%.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 1:01:25 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
AJ Tennant: Steamrolling team members instead of collaborating will get reps fired
“If you do not have the ability to collaborate effectively in a way that's driving your point of view that does require some tension and you are steamrolling people, people don't want to work with you, you're gone.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 0:10 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
AJ Tennant: Junior sales reps fail by relying on rigid pitch scripts
“I would say AEs are really struggling as being super creative and flexible and nuanced when you're engaging in a live conversation with someone. So, everyone has an idea when they're going into a call of what to say. They first think they're gonna get rejected…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 2:57 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tennant: Middle market is ideal for early SaaS startups seeking product-market fit
“I think, like, for technology, SaaS products, a really good place to sell to is in that middle market space, and going after that, and getting to product market fit, you get more cycles, more at-bats.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 8:03 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tennant: Tech startups must build collaborative tension between R&D and GTM
“The number one takeaway that I, I've brought to Glean. It's what I give to other, you know, founders I advise and just is how important it is to have the collaboration and like collaborative tension between R&D and GTM.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 9:44 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tennant: Bring R&D and product leaders onto customer sales calls
“I mean, that, and I, my lesson was bringing those individuals onto the calls. Get R&D onto the calls to hear the feedback. We needed to get engineers and R&D and Product leadership to hear and have empathy for the customer.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 11:18 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Horizontal products with PMF should move upmarket faster and more aggressively
“It is important when you have, like, such a horizontal product like Slack that has product market fit to move upmarket faster and more aggressively.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 11:57 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
AJ Tennant: Winning T-Mobile ignited Glean's upmarket growth momentum
“T-Mobile became that account for us at Glean. Not just a sales team, as a company and leadership team, we said, we are going to prove success at a Fortune 100, Like T-Mobile, get it to, get a win, get value, get success, and that's what we did. And then, as so…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 14:56 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tennant: R&D teams underestimate enterprise security and legal friction
“I think people underestimate, especially R&D organizations, like, how you're gonna navigate security, deployment, POCs, pilots, like, all of that nuance of getting through that, not to mention legal and contracting, becomes just, it's like molasses.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 15:34 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Glean phased its upmarket transition by giving reps key accounts alongside mid-market
“What we did was we said, okay, this team that's going after the, 2003 1004 1005 thousand, maybe even we started selling to like 10,015 thousand person accounts. We said, we're going to give you one or two of these key accounts that we're going to try to get in…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 16:49 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tennant: Enterprise land-and-expand deals require upfront executive alignment on expansion metrics
“I think you need to be very willing to do that. Now, the key thing that we've learned, and I, you know, learned this at Slack as well, but at Glean, You've got to have success criteria. You've got to have, okay, we're going to do, let's say for Fortune, 100 co…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 18:08 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
No enterprise has fully figured out its AI strategy yet
“Absolutely. I think, like, no, any company that's gonna say, oh, we figured out what we're doing with AI, I don't think they're, I don't think they figured it out.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 19:14 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Enterprise AI spending remains experimental due to lack of defensible ROI
“I call it experimental because people are still not defining it all the way back to a business issue and an ROI that is, like, fully defensible.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 23:32 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
AJ Tennant: Glean's largest customer contract is well north of $5 million
“You know, well, well north of five million.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 25:25 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tennant: Enterprise AI friction stems from security and change management, not product
“So what the challenge is, is not like some of the other technologies, a product issue, it's more of a change management security challenge.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 27:00 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tennant: Tech companies fail by postponing deployment planning until post-sale
“It's a lot of companies are Getting the big deals done, and then assuming, okay, we can figure out the deployments later, and that's what they get wrong.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 28:04 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Glean requires enterprise Account Executives to stay involved during deployment
“Our strategy is that in the enterprise, you as an AE are involved in the deployment. The reason you're involved is because you have an incentive to make them successful because your, the future upsell is dependent on your ability to drive deployment.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 28:36 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
AJ Tennant: Slack assigned senior CSMs strictly based on account ARR
“So I think one thing that I learned at Slack is like all Slack did was look at What the ARR was for the specific account, and then tied it, and they would only put a senior CSM on the, you know, whatever, the million dollar contracts.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 30:28 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
AJ Tennant: Junior CSMs on enterprise accounts reduce upsell likelihood
“If you are closing, let's say you close a couple hundred K deal with Exxon Mobil, and you're putting like a junior CSM on it who doesn't know how to navigate, you're gonna have, you're not gonna be likely to drive an upsell.”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 30:43 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
AJ Tennant: Glean maintains a 97% to 98% gross retention rate
“And so, you know, luckily at Glean, we have like a 97, 98% GRR. The only accounts we're churning are SMBs,”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 32:20 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Glean gives spot bonuses to CSMs for multi-million dollar expansions
“Actually, we did that at Glean, but we haven't systematically done it. So, for example, you know, the companies that did these multi-million dollar expansions, we actually strategically gave a large spot bonus to the CSM that was on that because we wanted to r…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 34:47 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Aggressive accelerators are the single best sales compensation lever
“More aggressive accelerators. You know, accelerators are essentially ways to, if someone goes over a hundred percent of their quota, An accelerator just gives that rep the ability to move faster in terms of accelerated comp. And so what it's doing, and why I s…”
AJ Tennant Oct 23, 2024 ▶ 35:34 AJ Tennant: How to Build a Sales Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | E2118 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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