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Prediction Held up
Marks: A period of market distress will occur by 2025
“The bull market is 11 years old. If there's not one in the next five years, that means we'll have gone 16, which would be a record by a wide margin. So my guess is that in the next five years, we'll have a period of distress, and my hope is that Oak Tree will …”
Howard Marks Jan 20, 2020 ▶ 28:54 20VC: Oaktree Capital's Howard Marks on The Most Important Skill An Investor Can Have, The Right Way To Think About Price Sensitivity & Where Are We At Today; Take More Risk or Less?
Assertion Supported
Marks: The market is in an advanced, elevated cycle stage
“I do think that we are in the upper advancing part of the cycle. You know, we've been in, it's been a long economic expansion, a long bull market, in both cases, the longest in history. Valuations of stocks are higher than usual. Interest rates and yield sprea…”
Howard Marks Jan 20, 2020 ▶ 6:52 20VC: Oaktree Capital's Howard Marks on The Most Important Skill An Investor Can Have, The Right Way To Think About Price Sensitivity & Where Are We At Today; Take More Risk or Less?
Prediction Held up
Marks: Oaktree's distressed debt returns won't match past crisis levels
“We think our returns will be very attractive relative to the low overall level of interest rates, but nothing like in the past.”
Howard Marks Jan 4, 2021 ▶ 19:19 20VC: Bill Gurley and Howard Marks: What Happened In 2020? What Can We Expect Looking Forward to 2021?
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