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Verna: Terrible products with incredible growth models become multi-billion-dollar companies

Elena Verna · 20VC The Memo: Inside the Growth Engines of Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Instacart with the Growth Leaders Who Built Them; How Instagram Went from 440M to 1BN, How Twitter Changing Their Signup Flow was a Needlemover and How Removing Card Payment Requ · Mar 25, 2022 · at 20:06

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Elena Verna, growth advisor to companies like Miro and MongoDB, highlights the decisive role of distribution over product quality alone.

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“There is incredible products that have never seen the light of day and died of slow death because they never had a growth model. And there's also a lot of really terrible products that have incredible growth models and the multi-billion dollar businesses right now.”

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