Des Traynor, co-founder of Intercom, discusses how AI startups can avoid direct competition with OpenAI by deeply solving specific vertical user problems.
“OpenAI is never going to put like five of their engineers going hard on wealth management and like, you know, banking integrations.”
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Opinion
Traynor: Calling products 'AI-first' without changing workflows is bullshit
“I think it's bullshit when actually the job is identical and you're just sprinkling on like salt and pepper, a bit of AI here and there.”
Des TraynorNov 15, 2023▶ 6:01Des Traynor: How to Survive and Thrive in a World of OpenAI | E1082 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
PredictionNot checkable as stated
Traynor: OpenAI will never solve end-to-end enterprise user workflows
“And the thick wrapper is, is like when you've actually solved the user's problem end to end fully in a way that OpenAI never will, you know.”
Des TraynorNov 15, 2023▶ 11:45Des Traynor: How to Survive and Thrive in a World of OpenAI | E1082 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Traynor: VC capital in AI startups mostly passes straight to OpenAI
“Giving a dollar to a startup is just a lossy way of giving it to OpenAI or Anthropic or whoever, because, you know, that's who they're basically taking it and shining it up and handing it onto.”
Des TraynorNov 15, 2023▶ 27:03Des Traynor: How to Survive and Thrive in a World of OpenAI | E1082 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
PredictionHeld up
Des Traynor: OpenAI valuation will pass $90B, but Amazon poses risks
“I don't think I would, and the reason, whilst I think they'll pass 90, the areas I'd be wary of is Amazon.”
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PredictionPartly held up
Traynor: AI infrastructure will consolidate into 3-4 providers in direct price competition
“There'll probably be three or four big providers is my guest, probably GCP, AWS, maybe open AI directly. And I'm sure Azure, that's how I think that that layer will play out. And they'll end up in direct price competition with each other.”
Des TraynorNov 24, 2023▶ 12:42The Ultimate AI Roundtable: What Happens Now in AI, Why Google are Vulnerable | E1085 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
PredictionOpen · timeframe Nov 2028
Traynor: Amazon could outright acquire Anthropic to integrate into AWS EC2
“I'd be wary of Amazon. So like I could see Amazon just like Flat up like buying Anthropic and being like, let's just make this part of the EC two cluster.”
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