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Söderström: Debating strategy with smart teams is far cheaper than writing code

Gustav Söderström · Spotify CTO Gustav Söderström: TikTok's Music; How Olivia Rodrigo Gamed the Algo | 20VC #936 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings · Oct 13, 2022 · at 38:44

Gustav Söderström is Chief Research & Development Officer (CPO/CTO) at Spotify. He argues against the tech industry adage that 'code decides arguments,' advocating for Socratic debate over premature execution.

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“In fact, just talking and debating with really smart people who are not afraid of you importantly, which I think is also sort of a Swedish societal trait that you're not so afraid of authority is way cheaper than writing code. Writing code is one of the most expensive things you can do.”

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