Nick Frosst is the co-founder of AI enterprise startup Cohere. He discusses the global competitive landscape of foundational LLM developers with host Harry Stebbings.
“Maybe there's like 10 companies in the world that are building, like, large language models. In the, yeah, maybe the, in, maybe there's like 15 in, I don't know, we'll have to figure out how, there's a few that have popped up recently. But there's some number, less than 20 in the whole world, most of them in America a handful of them in China us in Canada, and one in France. So those are really the companies out there.”
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