Justin Fishner-Wolfson, managing partner at 137 Ventures and former colleague of Peter Thiel, cites Thiel's initial Facebook deal to illustrate why strict VC ownership rules are outdated.
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“Peter ended up investing half a million dollars for like, 10% of the company.”
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“Focusing strictly on ownership percentage really, I think, blinds people to opportunities that may be much larger, and they just can't get over the hump from a process perspective to make those investments.”
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“You can't put the same revenue multiple on a 90% gross margin business with super high operating leverage as you would, you know, a company with 40% gross margins and less operating level. Like if you do that, you'll just never make any money. And eventually t…”
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Insight
Fishner-Wolfson: Secondary liquidity leads founders to reject early acquisition offers
“And they will then, and I've watched entrepreneurs do this consistently, turn down acquisition offers that would put huge amounts of money in their bank account. And that's really ultimately To the benefit of the venture investors, because they really want to …”
Justin Fishner-WolfsonFeb 4, 2021▶ 22:4420VC: Why VCs Should Care More About Cost of Capital and Less About Ownership, Investing Lessons from working with Peter Thiel at Founders Fund, Why Liquidity Aligns Incentives Between Founders and Investors & Why It Is The Last Double That Matters in Ven
PredictionHeld up
Fishner-Wolfson: SPAC proliferation will lower deal quality and cause market bust
“So I think that's going to create an incredible amount of competition amongst the SPACs to get deals done. And then the quality of those deals will inevitably trend downward, which will then make SPACs, you know, look bad and they will then go away for a perio…”
Justin Fishner-WolfsonFeb 4, 2021▶ 29:3620VC: Why VCs Should Care More About Cost of Capital and Less About Ownership, Investing Lessons from working with Peter Thiel at Founders Fund, Why Liquidity Aligns Incentives Between Founders and Investors & Why It Is The Last Double That Matters in Ven
Insight
Fishner-Wolfson: Valuation price only matters in VC when off by 5x
“I think this is an interesting question because my answer is oftentimes price doesn't matter unless you're off by five X, in which case then price is the only thing that matters.”
Justin Fishner-WolfsonFeb 9, 2024▶ 16:3820VC: Doug Leone, Bill Ackman, Bill Gurley and Orlando Bravo on "Does Price Matter"; When to Pay Up vs When to Stay Disciplined, The Biggest Lessons on Price Discipline from 8 of the World's Best Investors
Insight
Fishner-Wolfson: Rigid target ownership blinds VCs to massive opportunities
“And so focusing strictly on ownership percentage really, I think, blinds people to opportunities that may be much larger, and they just can't get over the hump from a process perspective to make those investments.”
Justin Fishner-WolfsonFeb 9, 2024▶ 19:0620VC: Doug Leone, Bill Ackman, Bill Gurley and Orlando Bravo on "Does Price Matter"; When to Pay Up vs When to Stay Disciplined, The Biggest Lessons on Price Discipline from 8 of the World's Best Investors
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