Jun 29, 2020 · 38m · 20vc
20VC: Oren Zeev on Why Diversification Is Overrated, The Downside of Thematic Investing, Making Quality Decisions In Uncertain Conditions & Why He Has No Reserves Allocation
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In this episode of The 20 Minute VC, solo General Partner Oren Zeev details his highly unconventional approach to venture capital, advocating for extreme portfolio concentration, thesis-free opportunistic investing, and streamlined decision-making over traditional multi-partner firm structures.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Harry holds 29.9% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Harry as informed peer 3.8 Guest teaching 5.5 Guest disagreement 4.1 Harry pushing back 2.9
speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 18:00 Oren rejects LP constraints and fund pacing expectations
Oren forcefully dismisses LP pushback on rapid fund pacing, stating unequivocally that he works for founders and himself rather than catering to LPs.
Hardest push from Harry ▶ 8:42 Harry challenges solo GP model using partner Fred's perspectiveHarry directly challenges Oren's critique of venture partnerships by citing his partner Fred and arguing that multi-partner teams seek truth together without internal salesmanship.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 22:30 Oren reframes standard pro-rata reserves as autopilot investingOren educates the host on the hidden flaw of standard reserve planning, explaining how automated pro-rata allocations bypass fresh critical analysis and yield lower returns.
Harry holds his own ▶ 6:52 Harry presses on solo GP scrutiny versus partner debateHarry demonstrates strong understanding of firm governance by pressing Oren on how a solo GP replicates the rigorous deal scrutiny provided by traditional venture partners.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Harry as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Harry pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oren Zeev's Career Path in Venture Capital | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Harry welcomes Oren back and asks standard biographical questions regarding his career path and navigating macroeconomic downturns. Oren offers measured reflections on how past downturns provide intuition rather than foresight, while keeping the conversation polite and collaborative. | |
| The Solo GP Model and Decision-Making Autonomy | 5 | 6 | 5 | 6 | Harry actively challenges the solo GP model, citing partner deal scrutiny and quoting his own co-founder Fred about seeking truth together. Oren strongly reframes the debate, arguing that multi-partner firms shift GPs from a truth-seeking mindset into an unhelpful sales and persuasion mode. | |
| Rejecting Thesis-Based Investing for Serendipity | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | Oren rejects traditional thesis-driven investing, labeling it an LP marketing tactic that produces groupthink and crowded markets. Harry listens and asks a follow-up on whether Oren relies on pure serendipity or targets unsexy sectors. | |
| Price Sensitivity, Deal Velocity, and Decision Quality | 4 | 6 | 5 | 3 | Oren dismisses valuation sensitivity, arguing that top venture wins transcend entry price and calling past-failure analogies shallow thinking. He rejects Harry's concern about compressed deal timelines by noting he decides within 24 to 40 hours without writing investment memos. | |
| Fund Pacing, High Portfolio Concentration, and Cross-Fund Investing | 4 | 7 | 6 | 4 | Oren directly attacks venture diversification as overrated, explaining why concentrated 5-to-10 company portfolios produce superior returns. When Harry highlights LP friction with rapid fund cycles, Oren bluntly replies that he works for founders and himself, not LPs. | |
| The Case Against Standard Reserve Allocation and Pro-Rata Rights | 5 | 6 | 5 | 5 | Harry questions how Oren avoids getting squeezed out by larger funds or forced into follow-on rounds. Oren criticizes standard LP reserve models as autopilot investing where VCs stop applying rigorous analysis to follow-on rounds. | |
| Assessing Founder Psychology and Character | 3 | 6 | 4 | 1 | Oren contrasts his approach with industry norms by admitting he tells LPs he is the least hardworking VC on Earth and showing them his empty calendar. Harry expresses fascination with Oren's efficiency, deck filtering speed, and reliance on founder intuition. | |
| Quickfire Round: Books, Secondaries, and Investment Philosophy | 3 | 5 | 3 | 1 | In a quickfire format, Oren challenges VC dogma around founder secondaries, stating that taking money off the table increases alignment and moonshot ambition. Harry guides the topics from books to career lessons without pushing back. |
Statements from this episode (26)
Oren Zeev was among the first ten VC investors in Israel
“The whole venture industry just started. There were 10 people. I got hired by Apex. So I was one of the first 10 people maybe in venture in Israel.”
Oren Zeev invested personal capital leading startup rounds for eight years
“And for a bunch of years, like seven or eight years, I invested my own money, but behaved as a VC. So I had a very unique model of investing my own money, but in significant amounts and leading rounds and behaving like a VC, taking board seats, et cetera.”
Oren Zeev: Better to overreact than underreact at start of a crisis
“And I think most people intuition was when this started was it's better to overreact than underreact.”
Oren Zeev: Building a multi-partner VC firm has no unique advantages
“There was no scenario that I would build a firm because, I mean, we'll probably talk about later, but I think I have all the advantages in the world without any of the disadvantages.”
Zeev: Multi-partner VC approval dynamics force investors into persuasion mode
“When I quote unquote consult with people in a partnership model, I'm also in a persuasion mode or a sale mode because I need to get it approved. So I think just naturally, and I think everyone is like that, you're just less receptive. First of all, you're just…”
Zeev: Thesis-based venture capital investing leads to groupthink and overfunded sectors
“It tends to lead you really to groupthink because at the end of the day, most of the VCs are basically very similar. So Obviously, these areas become overfunded, they become overly competitive, and yes, there will be some big winners out of this category of th…”
Oren Zeev: Market-leading startups develop quietly in unhyped spaces before competition notices
“It's much more likely to happen when it's kind of like a space that nobody thinks much about, and the company has an opportunity to Develop quietly for a year or two or three and build real moats and real advantages. And once everyone understands that it's an …”
Oren Zeev: Zeev Ventures relies on serendipity over proactive sourcing
“If I'm honest, it's more serendipity. I wish I was more proactive, but it's more serendipity. Again, I'm leveraging the fact that I've been doing venture for 25 years, so I leverage the fact that I Don't maybe need to create my own opportunities because I see …”
Zeev: Venture returns are driven by team choice, not cheap valuations
“You don't win because you pay cheap and you don't lose because you pay expensive. You win because you chose the right team and the right opportunity and the right company.”
Zeev: Walking away over a 20% valuation premium means pass anyway
“If I'm gonna walk away from a deal because it cost me 20% more, then you know what, I shouldn't have done the deal in the first place.”
Almost all Zeev Ventures investments are decided within 40 hours
“From my standpoint, I've always made my decisions extremely fast. Almost all my investments were done within 24 to 40 hours.”
Oren Zeev raised six venture funds in five years
“Since 2015, I've already done six funds, so you're right, it's even faster than annual”
Zeev: Diversification in venture capital is overrated and funds are over-diversified
“I think diversification is way overrated. I think that VC funds are generally way over diversified”
Every Zeev Ventures fund is limited to five to ten investments
“All my funds have between five and 10 investments.”
Oren Zeev makes cross-fund investments as standard practice
“I do cross-fund as a rule, not as an exception.”
Zeev Ventures keeps little to no follow-on reserves in its funds
“I pretty much do not keep reserves, or keep very, very little, and the reason is, because I do cross-fund, I don't feel that I need to keep reserves, because I can invest from the next fund, if I want to”
VC returns on follow-on reserves are lower than initial investments
“Because I think that, generally speaking, the returns, On the reserves are going to be lower than the first time you make an investment, and the reason is the first time you make an investment, you really scrutinize the investment.”
Expected VC pro-rata participation destroys positive signaling value
“By definition, if it's kind of expected from you, then it stops serving as a positive signal. Because I know that the existing investors would do it regardless of what they think.”
Oren Zeev waives legal investment rights if requested by founders
“Because if founder, regardless of my rights, if the founder asks me not to do something, I'm not going to do it.”
Oren Zeev: Toxic founders succeed despite their behavior, not because of it
“I think that the people who succeeded being assholes or psychopaths probably succeeded despite that, not necessarily because of that”
Oren Zeev: Preference for older, more experienced founders
“I also tend to invest in people a little bit on the older and more experienced side.”
Zeev: Deals requiring heavy due diligence are not obvious enough to back
“Sometimes LPs ask me, how do you do diligence, and I tell them I don't, and I exaggerate a little bit, because sometimes I make a few phone calls, but I'm not exaggerating by much, and usually there is, like, silence. They've never heard it before, and then I …”
Zeev: Takes 20 seconds reviewing pitch decks to filter deals
“If I filter meetings that I'm going to take, it takes me 20 seconds to look at a deck and decide whether there is a chance more than five percent that I would want to pursue it or not. If it's less than five percent or three percent, I just don't think.”
Zeev: Founder secondaries increase ambition by reducing personal financial pressure
“The fact that you let them Take money off the table actually brings better alignment. Even a significant amount, even if it's five or ten million, they're much more likely to try to hit for the fences and not take the first couple of hundred million dollar acq…”
Zeev: VCs should work for founders rather than act as equal partners
“Oftentimes, VCs talk about themselves as partners to the entrepreneurs, and I actually don't like the terminology, because a partner implies that I have a say, he has a say, or she has a say. No, I think I'm more than a partner. I work for them.”
Zeev: Early startups must build strong technical DNA before sales and marketing
“I think that if you start with very strong technical people, then you have the best DNA from a technology standpoint, an engineering standpoint. And again, it's something that you cannot fix after the fact. And sales and marketing, you can build it three years…”