May 18, 2018 · 24m · 20vc
20VC: 3 Questions Founders Must Stress Test VCs with, What Separates the Good From The Great VCs & Why 80% of VC Detract Value From Board Meetings with Seth Sternberg, Founder & CEO @ Honor
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In this episode of The 20 Minute VC, host Harry Stebbings interviews Seth Sternberg, founder and CEO of Honor, about scaling a mission-driven eldercare startup. Seth shares key operational lessons learned as a serial founder, strategies for managing venture capital board dynamics, and his long-term vision for senior care.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Harry holds 36.9% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Harry as informed peer 3.3 Guest teaching 2.8 Guest disagreement 1.2 Harry pushing back 1.3
speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 11:58 Rejection of Board Conflict Premise
Seth politely dismisses Harry's question about handling board split votes, pointing out that if a board actually comes to a split vote, something is fundamentally broken.
Hardest push from Harry ▶ 11:46 Pressing for Board Friction ExamplesHarry pushes Seth on board dynamics, asking specifically when Seth chose not to follow a board decision and how he managed that friction.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 13:20 The 80/10/10 VC Value BreakdownSeth delivers a candid critique of venture capital, stating that 80 percent of VCs actually detract value from board meetings while only 10 percent provide real positive value.
Harry holds his own ▶ 14:53 Challenging Valley Short-TermismHarry uses insights from Hunter Walk and David Barrett to challenge Seth on whether Silicon Valley founders prioritize quick exits over building enduring companies.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Harry as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Harry pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Founding Honor and Building a Mission-Driven Startup | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Harry opens the conversation smoothly by citing questions and stories from investors Satya Patel and Shana Zola. Seth explains the mission behind Honor and shares early learnings on team building and avoiding 'unicorn role' hiring traps. | |
| Eldercare Operational Challenges and Founding Team Dynamics | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | Harry asks about operational difficulties and managing a founding team composed of two married couples. Seth provides sobering operational context regarding home care, including managing dementia patients calling the police. | |
| Evaluating VCs and Board Dynamics in High-Growth Startups | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | Harry prompts Seth to break down what makes truly great VCs stand out. Seth outlines three clear criteria for founders selecting investors: personality fit, vision alignment, and tactical alignment. | |
| Board Management, Investor Value-Add, and Sequoia Insights | 4 | 4 | 2 | 3 | Harry presses Seth for an instance of overriding a board decision. Seth gently reframes the premise by explaining formal board splits indicate systemic failure, before dropping his framework that 80% of VCs detract value from boards. | |
| Long-Term Company Building, Parenthood, and Executive Retention | 4 | 3 | 1 | 1 | Harry brings in perspectives from Hunter Walk and Expensify's David Barrett regarding long-term company vision vs short-term flips. Seth agrees with the long-term focus, discussing executive retention models from Facebook and Google. | |
| Quick-Fire Round, Future Vision, and Episode Conclusion | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Harry leads a rapid-fire session covering books, mottos, and personal inflection points. Seth compares startup leadership under uncertainty to flying an airplane with competing sensor data. |
Statements from this episode (13)
Sternberg: Mission-first startups force distinct operational and hiring choices
“When you start with a mission first, you make a lot of different choices, and you also end up with a very different kind of team”
Sternberg: Sales and marketing require distinct people, not combined roles
“I always wanted these kind of what I now call unicorn people to fulfill a unicorn role. Like, why do you need to pay for both a salesperson and a marketing person? Can't they just be one person? And second time around, you recognize that they're actually reall…”
Sternberg: Firing poor-fit employees quickly benefits the employee long-term
“If someone's not a good fit for a company, then it's actually bad for them too, right? And so if you figure that out really quickly You can point that out to them before having joined the company, even if it becomes a thing on their resume and they are better …”
Sternberg: Honor hires small, highly selective engineering teams of 10x talent
“We are building the tech teams in really similar ways, so there are a few different philosophies on how to build a tech team, but what we do is extraordinarily selective, but low numbers of engineers, so it's really hard to find engineers that we want to work …”
Sternberg: Honor caregivers are present when clients pass away
“Because, you know, we will literally be in the homes of customers who pass away when we're in the home.”
Sternberg: Honor's exec team holds three-hour decision meetings twice weekly
“And the way we make most decisions is we kind of lock ourselves in our room for three hours on Mondays and Wednesdays, and then everybody has their role.”
Sternberg: Great VCs offer strategic advice without trying to run companies
“They really understand that the company is run by the founders, and they understand the limits of their knowledge on what's going on on the inside, kind of tactically, and so they're really, like, the truly great VCs are really good at giving strategic advice,…”
Sternberg: Personality, vision, and tactical alignment are core investor selection criteria
“It's like, do we like each other? Do we agree on the vision? And do we agree on the tactics at a high level? And then from there, it's a lot of nice to have. But I think those three are the core.”
Sternberg: Split board votes signal poor governance
“If something actually comes to like a split vote in the board, or the board has to go through a formal process to make a decision that kind of everybody didn't already kind of agree on, that's probably a pretty bad sign.”
Sternberg: 80% of VCs detract value from board meetings
“I, more than anything, because I kind of have this theory, I think about 80% of VCs, frankly, detract from the value of the kind of board in the discussion. I think 10% are neutral, and I think 10% are really positive.”
Sternberg: Building a startup to flip leads to destructive short-term decisions
“If you're building to flip, you'll make short-term decisions, and that will come back to bite you.”
Sternberg: Retaining top executive talent requires true empowerment, not micromanagement
“Clearly both Larry and Sergey and then Mark did a good job of truly empowering really, really smart people, because you cannot keep really smart people if you kind of just tell them what to do.”
Sternberg: Honor will launch transformative home care products within five years
“Also within five years, for sure, we'll have introduced kind of new products and services into the homes that really changed the face of what home care is considered to be today, but will make it so much better for the kids and their parents.”