Jan 30, 2017 · 25m · 20vc

20VC: How 50% Of VCs Hurt Entrepreneurs, How To Build A Relationship Of Trust With Your VC and How Entrepreneurs Can Detect VC BS with Jason Mendelson, Co-Founder @ Foundry Group

Jason Mendelson · 14m spoken Harry Stebbings · 9m spoken
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In this episode of The 20 Minute VC, host Harry Stebbings interviews Jason Mendelson, co-founder of Foundry Group, discussing venture capital dynamics, founder transparency, regional tech ecosystems, and investment strategies across market cycles. Mendelson offers candid advice on spotting predatory investor behavior, structuring productive board meetings, and evaluating early-stage valuation realities versus long-term partnership value.

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Harry holds 39.5% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Harry as informed peer 3.5 Guest teaching 3.0 Guest disagreement 2.8 Harry pushing back 1.7
05100:0010:0020:003:01–5:30 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Jason Mendelson's Path to Venture Capital Harry asks warm opening questions about Jason's transition from general counsel to VC, passing along a specific question from Brad Feld. Jason candidly shares his path and an anecdote about making a legal blunder that signaled his full transition to investing.5:37–9:30 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Transparency, VC Misalignment, and Detecting VC BS Harry prompts Jason on how to detect venture capital marketing jargon and BS. Jason pulls no punches, estimating 50 percent of VCs hurt entrepreneurs and calling out fake transparency and superficial firm marketing.9:33–13:58 · Harry as informed peer 4/10 Cultivating Trust and Managing Board Meeting Dynamics Harry references specific founder practices, like Sphero sending board materials in advance to keep meetings strategic. Jason agrees strongly, detailing how poor board dynamics make him spell board as B-O-R-E-D.14:03–16:26 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Regional Tech Ecosystems and Building Outside Silicon Valley Harry asks about building startups outside traditional coastal hubs and the essential pillars of an ecosystem. Jason mocks coastal arrogance and explains the critical role of a failure-tolerant culture using Detroit as a counterexample.16:30–18:33 · Harry as informed peer 5/10 Investment Strategy, Deal Competition, and Valuation Realities Harry challenges Jason on valuation sensitivity by citing a insight from Howard Lindzon and Fred Wilson regarding price flexibility. Jason pushes back gently, distinguishing between early and late stage pricing games and holding his firm's disciplined stance.18:33–23:25 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Narcissism in Tech Culture and Investing Through Market Cycles Harry leads a rapid-fire section covering tech culture narcissism, market cycles, favorite books, and personal anecdotes. Jason observes that during downturns, opportunistic VCs disappear while true entrepreneurs stay the course.3:01–5:30 · Guest teaching 1/10 Jason Mendelson's Path to Venture Capital Harry asks warm opening questions about Jason's transition from general counsel to VC, passing along a specific question from Brad Feld. Jason candidly shares his path and an anecdote about making a legal blunder that signaled his full transition to investing.5:37–9:30 · Guest teaching 4/10 Transparency, VC Misalignment, and Detecting VC BS Harry prompts Jason on how to detect venture capital marketing jargon and BS. Jason pulls no punches, estimating 50 percent of VCs hurt entrepreneurs and calling out fake transparency and superficial firm marketing.9:33–13:58 · Guest teaching 3/10 Cultivating Trust and Managing Board Meeting Dynamics Harry references specific founder practices, like Sphero sending board materials in advance to keep meetings strategic. Jason agrees strongly, detailing how poor board dynamics make him spell board as B-O-R-E-D.14:03–16:26 · Guest teaching 4/10 Regional Tech Ecosystems and Building Outside Silicon Valley Harry asks about building startups outside traditional coastal hubs and the essential pillars of an ecosystem. Jason mocks coastal arrogance and explains the critical role of a failure-tolerant culture using Detroit as a counterexample.16:30–18:33 · Guest teaching 3/10 Investment Strategy, Deal Competition, and Valuation Realities Harry challenges Jason on valuation sensitivity by citing a insight from Howard Lindzon and Fred Wilson regarding price flexibility. Jason pushes back gently, distinguishing between early and late stage pricing games and holding his firm's disciplined stance.18:33–23:25 · Guest teaching 3/10 Narcissism in Tech Culture and Investing Through Market Cycles Harry leads a rapid-fire section covering tech culture narcissism, market cycles, favorite books, and personal anecdotes. Jason observes that during downturns, opportunistic VCs disappear while true entrepreneurs stay the course.3:01–5:30 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Jason Mendelson's Path to Venture Capital Harry asks warm opening questions about Jason's transition from general counsel to VC, passing along a specific question from Brad Feld. Jason candidly shares his path and an anecdote about making a legal blunder that signaled his full transition to investing.5:37–9:30 · Guest disagreement 5/10 Transparency, VC Misalignment, and Detecting VC BS Harry prompts Jason on how to detect venture capital marketing jargon and BS. Jason pulls no punches, estimating 50 percent of VCs hurt entrepreneurs and calling out fake transparency and superficial firm marketing.9:33–13:58 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Cultivating Trust and Managing Board Meeting Dynamics Harry references specific founder practices, like Sphero sending board materials in advance to keep meetings strategic. Jason agrees strongly, detailing how poor board dynamics make him spell board as B-O-R-E-D.14:03–16:26 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Regional Tech Ecosystems and Building Outside Silicon Valley Harry asks about building startups outside traditional coastal hubs and the essential pillars of an ecosystem. Jason mocks coastal arrogance and explains the critical role of a failure-tolerant culture using Detroit as a counterexample.16:30–18:33 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Investment Strategy, Deal Competition, and Valuation Realities Harry challenges Jason on valuation sensitivity by citing a insight from Howard Lindzon and Fred Wilson regarding price flexibility. Jason pushes back gently, distinguishing between early and late stage pricing games and holding his firm's disciplined stance.18:33–23:25 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Narcissism in Tech Culture and Investing Through Market Cycles Harry leads a rapid-fire section covering tech culture narcissism, market cycles, favorite books, and personal anecdotes. Jason observes that during downturns, opportunistic VCs disappear while true entrepreneurs stay the course.3:01–5:30 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Jason Mendelson's Path to Venture Capital Harry asks warm opening questions about Jason's transition from general counsel to VC, passing along a specific question from Brad Feld. Jason candidly shares his path and an anecdote about making a legal blunder that signaled his full transition to investing.5:37–9:30 · Harry pushing back 2/10 Transparency, VC Misalignment, and Detecting VC BS Harry prompts Jason on how to detect venture capital marketing jargon and BS. Jason pulls no punches, estimating 50 percent of VCs hurt entrepreneurs and calling out fake transparency and superficial firm marketing.9:33–13:58 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Cultivating Trust and Managing Board Meeting Dynamics Harry references specific founder practices, like Sphero sending board materials in advance to keep meetings strategic. Jason agrees strongly, detailing how poor board dynamics make him spell board as B-O-R-E-D.14:03–16:26 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Regional Tech Ecosystems and Building Outside Silicon Valley Harry asks about building startups outside traditional coastal hubs and the essential pillars of an ecosystem. Jason mocks coastal arrogance and explains the critical role of a failure-tolerant culture using Detroit as a counterexample.16:30–18:33 · Harry pushing back 4/10 Investment Strategy, Deal Competition, and Valuation Realities Harry challenges Jason on valuation sensitivity by citing a insight from Howard Lindzon and Fred Wilson regarding price flexibility. Jason pushes back gently, distinguishing between early and late stage pricing games and holding his firm's disciplined stance.18:33–23:25 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Narcissism in Tech Culture and Investing Through Market Cycles Harry leads a rapid-fire section covering tech culture narcissism, market cycles, favorite books, and personal anecdotes. Jason observes that during downturns, opportunistic VCs disappear while true entrepreneurs stay the course.

speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Harry 100% · guest 0%0:00 · Harry 100% · guest 0%3:00 · Harry 29.7% · guest 70.3%3:00 · Harry 29.7% · guest 70.3%6:00 · Harry 13.6% · guest 86.4%6:00 · Harry 13.6% · guest 86.4%9:00 · Harry 26.2% · guest 73.8%9:00 · Harry 26.2% · guest 73.8%12:00 · Harry 28.8% · guest 71.2%12:00 · Harry 28.8% · guest 71.2%15:00 · Harry 26.3% · guest 73.7%15:00 · Harry 26.3% · guest 73.7%18:00 · Harry 28.1% · guest 71.9%18:00 · Harry 28.1% · guest 71.9%21:00 · Harry 37.7% · guest 62.3%21:00 · Harry 37.7% · guest 62.3%24:00 · Harry 100% · guest 0%24:00 · Harry 100% · guest 0%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 7:41 Calling out predatory VC behavior

Jason aggressively criticizes his own industry, stating that half of VC firms actively harm entrepreneurs and expressing a lack of respect for half the VCs he sits on boards with.

Hardest push from Harry ▶ 17:14 Host counters on price flexibility

Harry resists Jason's strict approach to valuation by bringing up Fred Wilson's principle that price should not prevent doing a deal with a great company.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 15:22 The failure culture requirement for tech hubs

Jason provides an insightful lesson on ecosystem development, demonstrating how Detroit failed to thrive despite having capital and talent because it lacked Silicon Valley's acceptance of entrepreneurial failure.

Harry holds his own ▶ 17:14 Harry invokes Fred Wilson on deal dynamics

Harry demonstrates his deep grasp of venture capital philosophy by citing explicit advice from Howard Lindzon and Fred Wilson to test Jason's investment rules.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicHarry as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementHarry pushing backWhy
Jason Mendelson's Path to Venture Capital 3111 Harry asks warm opening questions about Jason's transition from general counsel to VC, passing along a specific question from Brad Feld. Jason candidly shares his path and an anecdote about making a legal blunder that signaled his full transition to investing.
Transparency, VC Misalignment, and Detecting VC BS 3452 Harry prompts Jason on how to detect venture capital marketing jargon and BS. Jason pulls no punches, estimating 50 percent of VCs hurt entrepreneurs and calling out fake transparency and superficial firm marketing.
Cultivating Trust and Managing Board Meeting Dynamics 4321 Harry references specific founder practices, like Sphero sending board materials in advance to keep meetings strategic. Jason agrees strongly, detailing how poor board dynamics make him spell board as B-O-R-E-D.
Regional Tech Ecosystems and Building Outside Silicon Valley 3431 Harry asks about building startups outside traditional coastal hubs and the essential pillars of an ecosystem. Jason mocks coastal arrogance and explains the critical role of a failure-tolerant culture using Detroit as a counterexample.
Investment Strategy, Deal Competition, and Valuation Realities 5334 Harry challenges Jason on valuation sensitivity by citing a insight from Howard Lindzon and Fred Wilson regarding price flexibility. Jason pushes back gently, distinguishing between early and late stage pricing games and holding his firm's disciplined stance.
Narcissism in Tech Culture and Investing Through Market Cycles 3331 Harry leads a rapid-fire section covering tech culture narcissism, market cycles, favorite books, and personal anecdotes. Jason observes that during downturns, opportunistic VCs disappear while true entrepreneurs stay the course.

Statements from this episode (13)

Disclosure
Mendelson: Foundry Group Does Not Employ PR or Marketing Staff
“We don't have a PR firm. We don't have a marketing person. Our marketing is every once in a while we lose our brains and put up a music video or write a book.”
Jason Mendelson Jan 30, 2017 ▶ 7:46
Opinion
Mendelson: 50% of VCs Hurt Entrepreneurs, Only 25% Help
“In my opinion, at least 50% of them hurt entrepreneurs and 25% of them don't do any good. There's only really a quarter of the VC firms that I've worked with that really help the”
Jason Mendelson Jan 30, 2017 ▶ 8:00
Opinion
Mendelson: Half of Board VCs Are Neither Respected Nor Transparent
“Just on the boards that I'm on, a good half of the VCs that I share these boards with, I don't respect. I don't think they're transparent.”
Jason Mendelson Jan 30, 2017 ▶ 8:21
Insight
Mendelson: Pre-board materials transform board meetings into strategy sessions
“When you give me information ahead of time, you as the entrepreneur should hold me accountable that I've read everything. I've digested everything. If I have any questions, I ask before the board meeting so that the board meeting becomes a strategy meeting, no…”
Jason Mendelson Jan 30, 2017 ▶ 12:16
Opinion
Mendelson: Claiming large startups must be in Silicon Valley is myopic arrogance
“And I think it's laughable that there are people on the coast and primarily in Silicon Valley who openly say you can't build a big business in the Silicon Valley. It is that myopic arrogance, which makes me, it makes me laugh because that gives us great opport…”
Jason Mendelson Jan 30, 2017 ▶ 14:40
Insight
Mendelson: A thriving startup ecosystem requires a culture that respects failure
“More importantly, the pillar of having a culture of failure is super important. I'm from Detroit. And for many years, they had creative class, they had money, they had lawyers, they had people who could work there. They had great ideas, but they lacked the abi…”
Jason Mendelson Jan 30, 2017 ▶ 15:39
Assertion Partly supported
Mendelson: Foundry Group Operates With Four Partners and Zero Associates
“There's four partners and there's no associates.”
Jason Mendelson Jan 30, 2017 ▶ 16:46
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Mendelson: Foundry Group Will Never Chase Investment Deals on Price
“We're not going to chase deals on price. We're not going to chase deals because of some other term sheet.”
Jason Mendelson Jan 30, 2017 ▶ 16:58
Insight
Mendelson: Late-Stage Venture Investing Is Purely a Financial Exercise
“If we were late stage investors, totally different. It's a financial exercise at that point.”
Jason Mendelson Jan 30, 2017 ▶ 17:43
Opinion
Mendelson: Venture capitalists are lemmings who retreat in downturns
“Venture capitalists in general are lemmings, and when the times are bad, they get out of the market.”
Jason Mendelson Jan 30, 2017 ▶ 20:01
Disclosure
Foundry Group maintains a steady investment pace regardless of market cycles
“We at Founder Group, we've been together 20 years as a team almost, and we consistently invest in the same number of deals every year because we want to be time diversified, and we don't care if the times are great or horrible.”
Jason Mendelson Jan 30, 2017 ▶ 20:05
Disclosure
Mendelson: Foundry Group's highest returns come from downturn investments
“Some of the best deals we've ever done were with entrepreneurs in a down period where no other VCs would invest in them. We were able to, you know, invest in these great companies because we were the only people out there writing checks, and we had outsized re…”
Jason Mendelson Jan 30, 2017 ▶ 20:16
Opinion
Mendelson: The Knot and WeddingWire are merely vendor lead-generation tools
“Right now you've got the knot, you've got wedding wires. All they are is lead gen machines for vendors.”
Jason Mendelson Jan 30, 2017 ▶ 22:59
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