Nov 9, 2015 · 30m · 20vc

20 VC 086: Starting A New Venture Fund and How London Compares To The US with Hussein Kanji @ Hoxton Ventures

Hussein Kanji · 23m spoken Harry Stebbings · 4m spoken
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In this episode of The 20 Minute VC, host Harry Stebbings interviews Hussein Kanji, founder of Hoxton Ventures, to discuss building a $40 million European seed fund, the evolving dynamics between European tech and Silicon Valley, and strategies for identifying high-growth venture opportunities.

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Harry as informed peer 2.1 Guest teaching 4.7 Guest disagreement 1.3 Harry pushing back 1.3
05100:0010:0020:0030:001:44–8:54 · Harry as informed peer 2/10 Hussein Kanji's Early Career and Transition to Accel Partners Host asks introductory questions while guest delivers an extensive history of fund economics and the historical evolution of UK venture capital.8:54–11:40 · Harry as informed peer 1/10 Fundraising Challenges and Establishing Hoxton Ventures Host prompts about fundraising hurdles, leading guest to break down the reality of taking 39 months to raise a first-time European seed fund.11:40–15:08 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Silicon Valley vs. London Venture Dynamics Host brings up US investment trends in Europe, while guest shares firsthand stories of Silicon Valley skepticism toward European VC investments.15:08–19:59 · Harry as informed peer 2/10 Maintaining Global Networks and Building Hoxton's Brand Host asks about establishing a VC brand, and guest reframes brand equity as being derived purely from successful portfolio founders.19:59–22:41 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 European Seed Capital Scarcity and Venture Ecosystem Dynamics Host asks if Europe faces capital oversupply, which guest politely rejects by contrasting London's capital scarcity with US market saturation.22:41–26:25 · Harry as informed peer 2/10 Identifying Emerging Markets and Venture Investment Theses Host inquires about emerging thesis creation, prompting guest to clarify that entrepreneurs invent new markets while VCs merely spot pattern signals.26:25–29:36 · Harry as informed peer 2/10 Quickfire Round and Hoxton's Future Growth Host moves through a structured rapid quickfire round covering books, advice, and acquisitions, which guest answers directly.1:44–8:54 · Guest teaching 6/10 Hussein Kanji's Early Career and Transition to Accel Partners Host asks introductory questions while guest delivers an extensive history of fund economics and the historical evolution of UK venture capital.8:54–11:40 · Guest teaching 5/10 Fundraising Challenges and Establishing Hoxton Ventures Host prompts about fundraising hurdles, leading guest to break down the reality of taking 39 months to raise a first-time European seed fund.11:40–15:08 · Guest teaching 5/10 Silicon Valley vs. London Venture Dynamics Host brings up US investment trends in Europe, while guest shares firsthand stories of Silicon Valley skepticism toward European VC investments.15:08–19:59 · Guest teaching 4/10 Maintaining Global Networks and Building Hoxton's Brand Host asks about establishing a VC brand, and guest reframes brand equity as being derived purely from successful portfolio founders.19:59–22:41 · Guest teaching 6/10 European Seed Capital Scarcity and Venture Ecosystem Dynamics Host asks if Europe faces capital oversupply, which guest politely rejects by contrasting London's capital scarcity with US market saturation.22:41–26:25 · Guest teaching 5/10 Identifying Emerging Markets and Venture Investment Theses Host inquires about emerging thesis creation, prompting guest to clarify that entrepreneurs invent new markets while VCs merely spot pattern signals.26:25–29:36 · Guest teaching 2/10 Quickfire Round and Hoxton's Future Growth Host moves through a structured rapid quickfire round covering books, advice, and acquisitions, which guest answers directly.1:44–8:54 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Hussein Kanji's Early Career and Transition to Accel Partners Host asks introductory questions while guest delivers an extensive history of fund economics and the historical evolution of UK venture capital.8:54–11:40 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Fundraising Challenges and Establishing Hoxton Ventures Host prompts about fundraising hurdles, leading guest to break down the reality of taking 39 months to raise a first-time European seed fund.11:40–15:08 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Silicon Valley vs. London Venture Dynamics Host brings up US investment trends in Europe, while guest shares firsthand stories of Silicon Valley skepticism toward European VC investments.15:08–19:59 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Maintaining Global Networks and Building Hoxton's Brand Host asks about establishing a VC brand, and guest reframes brand equity as being derived purely from successful portfolio founders.19:59–22:41 · Guest disagreement 3/10 European Seed Capital Scarcity and Venture Ecosystem Dynamics Host asks if Europe faces capital oversupply, which guest politely rejects by contrasting London's capital scarcity with US market saturation.22:41–26:25 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Identifying Emerging Markets and Venture Investment Theses Host inquires about emerging thesis creation, prompting guest to clarify that entrepreneurs invent new markets while VCs merely spot pattern signals.26:25–29:36 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Quickfire Round and Hoxton's Future Growth Host moves through a structured rapid quickfire round covering books, advice, and acquisitions, which guest answers directly.1:44–8:54 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Hussein Kanji's Early Career and Transition to Accel Partners Host asks introductory questions while guest delivers an extensive history of fund economics and the historical evolution of UK venture capital.8:54–11:40 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Fundraising Challenges and Establishing Hoxton Ventures Host prompts about fundraising hurdles, leading guest to break down the reality of taking 39 months to raise a first-time European seed fund.11:40–15:08 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Silicon Valley vs. London Venture Dynamics Host brings up US investment trends in Europe, while guest shares firsthand stories of Silicon Valley skepticism toward European VC investments.15:08–19:59 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Maintaining Global Networks and Building Hoxton's Brand Host asks about establishing a VC brand, and guest reframes brand equity as being derived purely from successful portfolio founders.19:59–22:41 · Harry pushing back 3/10 European Seed Capital Scarcity and Venture Ecosystem Dynamics Host asks if Europe faces capital oversupply, which guest politely rejects by contrasting London's capital scarcity with US market saturation.22:41–26:25 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Identifying Emerging Markets and Venture Investment Theses Host inquires about emerging thesis creation, prompting guest to clarify that entrepreneurs invent new markets while VCs merely spot pattern signals.26:25–29:36 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Quickfire Round and Hoxton's Future Growth Host moves through a structured rapid quickfire round covering books, advice, and acquisitions, which guest answers directly.

speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Harry 62.3% · guest 37.7%0:00 · Harry 62.3% · guest 37.7%3:00 · Harry 9.5% · guest 90.5%3:00 · Harry 9.5% · guest 90.5%6:00 · Harry 4.9% · guest 95.1%6:00 · Harry 4.9% · guest 95.1%9:00 · Harry 4.2% · guest 95.8%9:00 · Harry 4.2% · guest 95.8%12:00 · Harry 2.7% · guest 97.3%12:00 · Harry 2.7% · guest 97.3%15:00 · Harry 16.1% · guest 83.9%15:00 · Harry 16.1% · guest 83.9%18:00 · Harry 9.1% · guest 90.9%18:00 · Harry 9.1% · guest 90.9%21:00 · Harry 11.1% · guest 88.9%21:00 · Harry 11.1% · guest 88.9%24:00 · Harry 5.7% · guest 94.3%24:00 · Harry 5.7% · guest 94.3%27:00 · Harry 27.1% · guest 72.9%27:00 · Harry 27.1% · guest 72.9%30:00 · Harry 100% · guest 0%30:00 · Harry 100% · guest 0%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 20:13 Premise rejection on European capital overhang

Guest directly counters host's suggestion that there is too much capital chasing deals in Europe, contrasting European seed scarcity with California density.

Hardest push from Harry ▶ 21:00 Host presses on London seed fund capacity

Host holds his position following guest's pushback, immediately pressing whether London genuinely has room for multiple new seed funds.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 6:04 Historical breakdown of European venture failure

Guest educates host on why historical UK venture capital failed to scale, referencing Ron Cohen's book and Apex's transition into private equity.

Harry holds his own ▶ 14:14 Host cites US VC participation statistics

Host demonstrates strong market awareness by citing specific data regarding US VC funds leading Series B investments in London.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicHarry as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementHarry pushing backWhy
Hussein Kanji's Early Career and Transition to Accel Partners 2611 Host asks introductory questions while guest delivers an extensive history of fund economics and the historical evolution of UK venture capital.
Fundraising Challenges and Establishing Hoxton Ventures 1511 Host prompts about fundraising hurdles, leading guest to break down the reality of taking 39 months to raise a first-time European seed fund.
Silicon Valley vs. London Venture Dynamics 3511 Host brings up US investment trends in Europe, while guest shares firsthand stories of Silicon Valley skepticism toward European VC investments.
Maintaining Global Networks and Building Hoxton's Brand 2411 Host asks about establishing a VC brand, and guest reframes brand equity as being derived purely from successful portfolio founders.
European Seed Capital Scarcity and Venture Ecosystem Dynamics 3633 Host asks if Europe faces capital oversupply, which guest politely rejects by contrasting London's capital scarcity with US market saturation.
Identifying Emerging Markets and Venture Investment Theses 2511 Host inquires about emerging thesis creation, prompting guest to clarify that entrepreneurs invent new markets while VCs merely spot pattern signals.
Quickfire Round and Hoxton's Future Growth 2211 Host moves through a structured rapid quickfire round covering books, advice, and acquisitions, which guest answers directly.

Statements from this episode (15)

Assertion Supported
Kanji: Hoxton Ventures manages $40 million in its debut fund
“Following such success, Hussain set out to raise his own fund, and is now the founder of Hoxton Ventures, a 2013 fund with forty million under management.”
Harry Stebbings Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 0:29
Assertion Supported
Hoxton Ventures' early portfolio includes Deliveroo, Darktrace, and Campana
“Despite Hoxton's age, their portfolio is immense, with the likes of Deliveroo, Darktrace by the famous Mike Lynch from Autonomy, and Campania, recently acquired by a twenty-four-seven customer.”
Harry Stebbings Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 0:40
Opinion
Kanji: Accel and Index are the best venture firms in Europe
“Axel's a great firm. I mean, it's probably one of the best in Europe, if not the best, alongside of Index.”
Hussein Kanji Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 3:42
Assertion Supported
Kanji: Accel operates European venture funds exceeding $500 million each
“Axel's more than half a million, half a billion per fund, so 500 something plus Per fund.”
Hussein Kanji Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 3:48
Assertion Supported
Kanji: UK venture pioneers Apax and 3i abandoned early-stage investing
“Apex became much more of a private equity firm than it became a venture firm. And three I became much more of a growth equity firm.”
Hussein Kanji Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 6:39
Insight
Kanji: Global app platforms allow European startups to scale without geographic limits
“But once these distribution platforms became global, you know, the playing field completely changed, right? You put your app on top of the app store. It doesn't make a difference where you come from. You're going to get users all over the world. And Angry Bird…”
Hussein Kanji Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 7:17
Assertion Supported
Kanji: Hoxton Ventures took 39 months to raise its debut fund
“It took us 39 months to do this.”
Hussein Kanji Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 9:36
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kanji: Hoxton Ventures exited the J-curve within two years
“We're out of the J curve, which means we're kind of, you know, in the money now on, on the fund, you know, for a fund that's just going to become two years old in two weeks.”
Hussein Kanji Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 11:14
Assertion Partly supported
Kanji: Two-thirds of London Series B capital comes from US VCs
“They're saying two thirds of all the money in, in, in London, at least in the tech community at the series B stage is, is now funded by American VCs. And when I say American VCs, I don't mean Accel in the UK. I mean, guys who are in the U S who are flying over…”
Hussein Kanji Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 14:20
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kanji: Hoxton partners travel to Silicon Valley every six to eight weeks
“For us, we go there every, like, six to eight weeks, you know, you get back into the flow of information”
Hussein Kanji Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 16:15
Assertion Partly supported
Kanji: New York raises in a quarter what London raises annually
“New York in an entire financial quarter raises as much money as London does in a year.”
Hussein Kanji Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 20:27
Disclosure
Kanji: Hoxton Ventures co-invested in Darktrace alongside family office Talos
“Through a family office called Talus we bumped into Darktrace. And together, Talos and us ended up investing in Darktrace, and that clearly is turning into a cybersecurity winner.”
Hussein Kanji Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 24:15
Insight
Kanji: Fintech startups are unbundling HSBC's website pixel by pixel
“You can basically take the HSBC webpage and start tearing it apart. There's a startup, you know, for every little pixel, right, on the HSBC webpage doing a different service. There's a startup going after them, right? It's a bunch of piranhas attacking, attack…”
Hussein Kanji Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 25:22
Insight
Kanji: Founders must use social engineering to close seed funding rounds
“The best way to get any kind of round done is do the social engineering that you need to do to make sure other people in the market who are pretty well-regarded are talking you up, because that's the best way to get venture firms super excited.”
Hussein Kanji Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 26:41
Prediction Held up
Kanji: Hoxton Ventures will remain a small, early-stage focused firm
“We're always going to be a small firm, but I think we can be a little bit bigger so that we can support our entrepreneurs the best way. But, you know, we want to be, I don't think we want to be a big firm. I don't think we want to be and doing growth deals. We…”
Hussein Kanji Nov 9, 2015 ▶ 28:00
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