May 12, 2025 · 1h 4m · 20vc

20VC Exclusive: Mercury Founder Launches First $26M Fund with Immad Akhund · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

Immad Akhund · 46m spoken Harry Stebbings · 12m spoken
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In this episode of 20VC, host Harry Stebbings interviews Mercury founder and CEO Immad Akhund to discuss the launch of his new $26 million institutional fund, his strategic approach to angel investing, and his contrarian insights on startup valuations, founder psychology, and the artificial intelligence landscape.

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Harry holds 21.3% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Harry as informed peer 5.5 Guest teaching 5.5 Guest disagreement 2.6 Harry pushing back 4.8
05100:0015:0030:0045:001:00:000:35–7:26 · Harry as informed peer 6/10 The $26M Fund Announcement Harry probes Immad's angel learnings and challenges conventional views on founder pushback and platform value add, which he bluntly labels an excuse for management fees. Immad offers nuanced counterpoints regarding young founders and net value from founder networks.7:26–10:14 · Harry as informed peer 4/10 The Sequoia Investment & Diligence Process Harry asks about Sequoia's brand impact and diligence process during Mercury's Series C. Immad details Sequoia's extensive customer diligence and partner conviction.10:14–12:51 · Harry as informed peer 6/10 Valuation Strategy & Raising Large Rounds Immad shares a contrarian view on taking high valuations like Mercury's 120x Series B. Harry pushes back firmly, citing his ongoing Twitter debate with Parker Conrad that inexperienced founders usually burn cash raised at bloated valuations.12:51–17:25 · Harry as informed peer 5/10 Truebill and the Power of Serial Founders & Naivety Immad recounts his Truebill angel win and strong preference for serial founders with something to prove. Harry forces him to pick a side between serial and first-time founders, leading to a discussion on founder naivety.17:25–21:38 · Harry as informed peer 4/10 Angel Misses, Portfolio Diversification & Decacorn Hunting Immad outlines his mistake passing on Scale AI and explains the math of seed entry prices, demonstrating why modern seed funds must target decacorns over standard unicorns. Harry guides the conversation to extract portfolio strategy insights.21:38–28:13 · Harry as informed peer 7/10 AI Moats, Revenue Skepticism & the Future of Software Engineering Harry cites Bill Gurley's 10x revenue rule to challenge Airtable's $50B valuation trajectory and brings up AI coding productivity stats from HubSpot and Salesforce. Immad details his skepticism regarding temporary labor-replacement AI revenues vs durable workflow tools.28:13–32:58 · Harry as informed peer 6/10 Mercury's Strategic Decisions, delayed Credit Card & Competition Philosophy Immad admits Mercury delayed its credit card launch relative to Brex and Ramp. Harry pushes back with 7 Powers counter-positioning frameworks and directly asks why competitors command double Mercury's valuation despite lower account scale.32:58–38:50 · Harry as informed peer 7/10 The $26M Fund Strategy & Follow-On Reserves Debate Immad explains his $26M fund structure and check sizing. Harry interrupts to explicitly advise Immad against reserving capital in favor of doing SPVs, but Immad strongly rejects the idea, noting founders dislike SPVs and FOMO dynamics.38:50–41:36 · Harry as informed peer 5/10 Navigating AI Hype & Valuation Math at Seed Stage Immad breaks down why seed-stage AI valuations are overhyped and mathematically difficult to justify for repetitive ideas. Harry prompts him to detail his specific filtering criteria when backing AI startups.41:36–46:23 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Demystifying Space Tech & Managing Time as a CEO-Investor Harry openly admits complete lack of knowledge about space tech and asks Immad to educate him. Immad breaks down the sector into three distinct commercial markets: rockets, satellite imaging, and communications.46:23–52:40 · Harry as informed peer 7/10 Raising a $26M Fund & Debating the CEO-Investor Responsibility Harry directly challenges the ethics and responsibility of an active $5B company CEO raising external LP capital for a side fund. Immad counters that his angel deal flow and early founder network directly fuel Mercury's customer acquisition.52:40–57:04 · Harry as informed peer 6/10 The Future of Venture & the Public Market IPO Problem Harry references the Collison brothers' critiques of public markets and questions why successful tech companies would IPO today. Immad explains macro public market structural issues while advocating for liquid employee secondary options.0:35–7:26 · Guest teaching 5/10 The $26M Fund Announcement Harry probes Immad's angel learnings and challenges conventional views on founder pushback and platform value add, which he bluntly labels an excuse for management fees. Immad offers nuanced counterpoints regarding young founders and net value from founder networks.7:26–10:14 · Guest teaching 4/10 The Sequoia Investment & Diligence Process Harry asks about Sequoia's brand impact and diligence process during Mercury's Series C. Immad details Sequoia's extensive customer diligence and partner conviction.10:14–12:51 · Guest teaching 4/10 Valuation Strategy & Raising Large Rounds Immad shares a contrarian view on taking high valuations like Mercury's 120x Series B. Harry pushes back firmly, citing his ongoing Twitter debate with Parker Conrad that inexperienced founders usually burn cash raised at bloated valuations.12:51–17:25 · Guest teaching 5/10 Truebill and the Power of Serial Founders & Naivety Immad recounts his Truebill angel win and strong preference for serial founders with something to prove. Harry forces him to pick a side between serial and first-time founders, leading to a discussion on founder naivety.17:25–21:38 · Guest teaching 6/10 Angel Misses, Portfolio Diversification & Decacorn Hunting Immad outlines his mistake passing on Scale AI and explains the math of seed entry prices, demonstrating why modern seed funds must target decacorns over standard unicorns. Harry guides the conversation to extract portfolio strategy insights.21:38–28:13 · Guest teaching 6/10 AI Moats, Revenue Skepticism & the Future of Software Engineering Harry cites Bill Gurley's 10x revenue rule to challenge Airtable's $50B valuation trajectory and brings up AI coding productivity stats from HubSpot and Salesforce. Immad details his skepticism regarding temporary labor-replacement AI revenues vs durable workflow tools.28:13–32:58 · Guest teaching 5/10 Mercury's Strategic Decisions, delayed Credit Card & Competition Philosophy Immad admits Mercury delayed its credit card launch relative to Brex and Ramp. Harry pushes back with 7 Powers counter-positioning frameworks and directly asks why competitors command double Mercury's valuation despite lower account scale.32:58–38:50 · Guest teaching 6/10 The $26M Fund Strategy & Follow-On Reserves Debate Immad explains his $26M fund structure and check sizing. Harry interrupts to explicitly advise Immad against reserving capital in favor of doing SPVs, but Immad strongly rejects the idea, noting founders dislike SPVs and FOMO dynamics.38:50–41:36 · Guest teaching 6/10 Navigating AI Hype & Valuation Math at Seed Stage Immad breaks down why seed-stage AI valuations are overhyped and mathematically difficult to justify for repetitive ideas. Harry prompts him to detail his specific filtering criteria when backing AI startups.41:36–46:23 · Guest teaching 8/10 Demystifying Space Tech & Managing Time as a CEO-Investor Harry openly admits complete lack of knowledge about space tech and asks Immad to educate him. Immad breaks down the sector into three distinct commercial markets: rockets, satellite imaging, and communications.46:23–52:40 · Guest teaching 5/10 Raising a $26M Fund & Debating the CEO-Investor Responsibility Harry directly challenges the ethics and responsibility of an active $5B company CEO raising external LP capital for a side fund. Immad counters that his angel deal flow and early founder network directly fuel Mercury's customer acquisition.52:40–57:04 · Guest teaching 6/10 The Future of Venture & the Public Market IPO Problem Harry references the Collison brothers' critiques of public markets and questions why successful tech companies would IPO today. Immad explains macro public market structural issues while advocating for liquid employee secondary options.0:35–7:26 · Guest disagreement 2/10 The $26M Fund Announcement Harry probes Immad's angel learnings and challenges conventional views on founder pushback and platform value add, which he bluntly labels an excuse for management fees. Immad offers nuanced counterpoints regarding young founders and net value from founder networks.7:26–10:14 · Guest disagreement 1/10 The Sequoia Investment & Diligence Process Harry asks about Sequoia's brand impact and diligence process during Mercury's Series C. Immad details Sequoia's extensive customer diligence and partner conviction.10:14–12:51 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Valuation Strategy & Raising Large Rounds Immad shares a contrarian view on taking high valuations like Mercury's 120x Series B. Harry pushes back firmly, citing his ongoing Twitter debate with Parker Conrad that inexperienced founders usually burn cash raised at bloated valuations.12:51–17:25 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Truebill and the Power of Serial Founders & Naivety Immad recounts his Truebill angel win and strong preference for serial founders with something to prove. Harry forces him to pick a side between serial and first-time founders, leading to a discussion on founder naivety.17:25–21:38 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Angel Misses, Portfolio Diversification & Decacorn Hunting Immad outlines his mistake passing on Scale AI and explains the math of seed entry prices, demonstrating why modern seed funds must target decacorns over standard unicorns. Harry guides the conversation to extract portfolio strategy insights.21:38–28:13 · Guest disagreement 3/10 AI Moats, Revenue Skepticism & the Future of Software Engineering Harry cites Bill Gurley's 10x revenue rule to challenge Airtable's $50B valuation trajectory and brings up AI coding productivity stats from HubSpot and Salesforce. Immad details his skepticism regarding temporary labor-replacement AI revenues vs durable workflow tools.28:13–32:58 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Mercury's Strategic Decisions, delayed Credit Card & Competition Philosophy Immad admits Mercury delayed its credit card launch relative to Brex and Ramp. Harry pushes back with 7 Powers counter-positioning frameworks and directly asks why competitors command double Mercury's valuation despite lower account scale.32:58–38:50 · Guest disagreement 5/10 The $26M Fund Strategy & Follow-On Reserves Debate Immad explains his $26M fund structure and check sizing. Harry interrupts to explicitly advise Immad against reserving capital in favor of doing SPVs, but Immad strongly rejects the idea, noting founders dislike SPVs and FOMO dynamics.38:50–41:36 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Navigating AI Hype & Valuation Math at Seed Stage Immad breaks down why seed-stage AI valuations are overhyped and mathematically difficult to justify for repetitive ideas. Harry prompts him to detail his specific filtering criteria when backing AI startups.41:36–46:23 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Demystifying Space Tech & Managing Time as a CEO-Investor Harry openly admits complete lack of knowledge about space tech and asks Immad to educate him. Immad breaks down the sector into three distinct commercial markets: rockets, satellite imaging, and communications.46:23–52:40 · Guest disagreement 4/10 Raising a $26M Fund & Debating the CEO-Investor Responsibility Harry directly challenges the ethics and responsibility of an active $5B company CEO raising external LP capital for a side fund. Immad counters that his angel deal flow and early founder network directly fuel Mercury's customer acquisition.52:40–57:04 · Guest disagreement 2/10 The Future of Venture & the Public Market IPO Problem Harry references the Collison brothers' critiques of public markets and questions why successful tech companies would IPO today. Immad explains macro public market structural issues while advocating for liquid employee secondary options.0:35–7:26 · Harry pushing back 5/10 The $26M Fund Announcement Harry probes Immad's angel learnings and challenges conventional views on founder pushback and platform value add, which he bluntly labels an excuse for management fees. Immad offers nuanced counterpoints regarding young founders and net value from founder networks.7:26–10:14 · Harry pushing back 3/10 The Sequoia Investment & Diligence Process Harry asks about Sequoia's brand impact and diligence process during Mercury's Series C. Immad details Sequoia's extensive customer diligence and partner conviction.10:14–12:51 · Harry pushing back 6/10 Valuation Strategy & Raising Large Rounds Immad shares a contrarian view on taking high valuations like Mercury's 120x Series B. Harry pushes back firmly, citing his ongoing Twitter debate with Parker Conrad that inexperienced founders usually burn cash raised at bloated valuations.12:51–17:25 · Harry pushing back 4/10 Truebill and the Power of Serial Founders & Naivety Immad recounts his Truebill angel win and strong preference for serial founders with something to prove. Harry forces him to pick a side between serial and first-time founders, leading to a discussion on founder naivety.17:25–21:38 · Harry pushing back 3/10 Angel Misses, Portfolio Diversification & Decacorn Hunting Immad outlines his mistake passing on Scale AI and explains the math of seed entry prices, demonstrating why modern seed funds must target decacorns over standard unicorns. Harry guides the conversation to extract portfolio strategy insights.21:38–28:13 · Harry pushing back 5/10 AI Moats, Revenue Skepticism & the Future of Software Engineering Harry cites Bill Gurley's 10x revenue rule to challenge Airtable's $50B valuation trajectory and brings up AI coding productivity stats from HubSpot and Salesforce. Immad details his skepticism regarding temporary labor-replacement AI revenues vs durable workflow tools.28:13–32:58 · Harry pushing back 6/10 Mercury's Strategic Decisions, delayed Credit Card & Competition Philosophy Immad admits Mercury delayed its credit card launch relative to Brex and Ramp. Harry pushes back with 7 Powers counter-positioning frameworks and directly asks why competitors command double Mercury's valuation despite lower account scale.32:58–38:50 · Harry pushing back 7/10 The $26M Fund Strategy & Follow-On Reserves Debate Immad explains his $26M fund structure and check sizing. Harry interrupts to explicitly advise Immad against reserving capital in favor of doing SPVs, but Immad strongly rejects the idea, noting founders dislike SPVs and FOMO dynamics.38:50–41:36 · Harry pushing back 4/10 Navigating AI Hype & Valuation Math at Seed Stage Immad breaks down why seed-stage AI valuations are overhyped and mathematically difficult to justify for repetitive ideas. Harry prompts him to detail his specific filtering criteria when backing AI startups.41:36–46:23 · Harry pushing back 2/10 Demystifying Space Tech & Managing Time as a CEO-Investor Harry openly admits complete lack of knowledge about space tech and asks Immad to educate him. Immad breaks down the sector into three distinct commercial markets: rockets, satellite imaging, and communications.46:23–52:40 · Harry pushing back 8/10 Raising a $26M Fund & Debating the CEO-Investor Responsibility Harry directly challenges the ethics and responsibility of an active $5B company CEO raising external LP capital for a side fund. Immad counters that his angel deal flow and early founder network directly fuel Mercury's customer acquisition.52:40–57:04 · Harry pushing back 4/10 The Future of Venture & the Public Market IPO Problem Harry references the Collison brothers' critiques of public markets and questions why successful tech companies would IPO today. Immad explains macro public market structural issues while advocating for liquid employee secondary options.

speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Harry 25% · guest 75%0:00 · Harry 25% · guest 75%3:00 · Harry 20.9% · guest 79.1%3:00 · Harry 20.9% · guest 79.1%6:00 · Harry 16.9% · guest 83.1%6:00 · Harry 16.9% · guest 83.1%9:00 · Harry 18.1% · guest 81.9%9:00 · Harry 18.1% · guest 81.9%12:00 · Harry 19.3% · guest 80.7%12:00 · Harry 19.3% · guest 80.7%15:00 · Harry 12.8% · guest 87.2%15:00 · Harry 12.8% · guest 87.2%18:00 · Harry 16.8% · guest 83.2%18:00 · Harry 16.8% · guest 83.2%21:00 · Harry 29.6% · guest 70.4%21:00 · Harry 29.6% · guest 70.4%24:00 · Harry 8.8% · guest 91.2%24:00 · Harry 8.8% · guest 91.2%27:00 · Harry 20.8% · guest 79.2%27:00 · Harry 20.8% · guest 79.2%30:00 · Harry 26.4% · guest 73.6%30:00 · Harry 26.4% · guest 73.6%33:00 · Harry 24.1% · guest 75.9%33:00 · Harry 24.1% · guest 75.9%36:00 · Harry 40% · guest 60%36:00 · Harry 40% · guest 60%39:00 · Harry 21% · guest 79%39:00 · Harry 21% · guest 79%42:00 · Harry 13% · guest 87%42:00 · Harry 13% · guest 87%45:00 · Harry 23.6% · guest 76.4%45:00 · Harry 23.6% · guest 76.4%48:00 · Harry 28.4% · guest 71.6%48:00 · Harry 28.4% · guest 71.6%51:00 · Harry 27.5% · guest 72.5%51:00 · Harry 27.5% · guest 72.5%54:00 · Harry 16.9% · guest 83.1%54:00 · Harry 16.9% · guest 83.1%57:00 · Harry 26.8% · guest 73.2%57:00 · Harry 26.8% · guest 73.2%1:00:00 · Harry 13.5% · guest 86.5%1:00:00 · Harry 13.5% · guest 86.5%1:03:00 · Harry 17.6% · guest 82.4%1:03:00 · Harry 17.6% · guest 82.4%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 36:11 Guest rejects host's SPV advice

Immad flatly rejects Harry's unsolicited advice to skip reserves in favor of SPVs, stating founders dislike SPVs and calling them FOMO-driven.

Hardest push from Harry ▶ 48:53 Host challenges CEO raising external LP money

Harry forcefully challenges Immad's decision to take outside LP capital, arguing that managing external funds creates conflicting responsibilities for a full-time CEO.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 42:15 Guest demystifies space tech market categories

After Harry admits complete ignorance about space tech, Immad systematically educates him on how satellite imaging, rockets, and comms form the actual space economy.

Harry holds his own ▶ 22:59 Host invokes Bill Gurley's 10x valuation framework

Harry uses Bill Gurley's 10x revenue rule across cycles to demonstrate that Airtable would need $5B in revenue to justify a $50B valuation.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicHarry as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementHarry pushing backWhy
The $26M Fund Announcement 6525 Harry probes Immad's angel learnings and challenges conventional views on founder pushback and platform value add, which he bluntly labels an excuse for management fees. Immad offers nuanced counterpoints regarding young founders and net value from founder networks.
The Sequoia Investment & Diligence Process 4413 Harry asks about Sequoia's brand impact and diligence process during Mercury's Series C. Immad details Sequoia's extensive customer diligence and partner conviction.
Valuation Strategy & Raising Large Rounds 6436 Immad shares a contrarian view on taking high valuations like Mercury's 120x Series B. Harry pushes back firmly, citing his ongoing Twitter debate with Parker Conrad that inexperienced founders usually burn cash raised at bloated valuations.
Truebill and the Power of Serial Founders & Naivety 5524 Immad recounts his Truebill angel win and strong preference for serial founders with something to prove. Harry forces him to pick a side between serial and first-time founders, leading to a discussion on founder naivety.
Angel Misses, Portfolio Diversification & Decacorn Hunting 4623 Immad outlines his mistake passing on Scale AI and explains the math of seed entry prices, demonstrating why modern seed funds must target decacorns over standard unicorns. Harry guides the conversation to extract portfolio strategy insights.
AI Moats, Revenue Skepticism & the Future of Software Engineering 7635 Harry cites Bill Gurley's 10x revenue rule to challenge Airtable's $50B valuation trajectory and brings up AI coding productivity stats from HubSpot and Salesforce. Immad details his skepticism regarding temporary labor-replacement AI revenues vs durable workflow tools.
Mercury's Strategic Decisions, delayed Credit Card & Competition Philosophy 6536 Immad admits Mercury delayed its credit card launch relative to Brex and Ramp. Harry pushes back with 7 Powers counter-positioning frameworks and directly asks why competitors command double Mercury's valuation despite lower account scale.
The $26M Fund Strategy & Follow-On Reserves Debate 7657 Immad explains his $26M fund structure and check sizing. Harry interrupts to explicitly advise Immad against reserving capital in favor of doing SPVs, but Immad strongly rejects the idea, noting founders dislike SPVs and FOMO dynamics.
Navigating AI Hype & Valuation Math at Seed Stage 5634 Immad breaks down why seed-stage AI valuations are overhyped and mathematically difficult to justify for repetitive ideas. Harry prompts him to detail his specific filtering criteria when backing AI startups.
Demystifying Space Tech & Managing Time as a CEO-Investor 3812 Harry openly admits complete lack of knowledge about space tech and asks Immad to educate him. Immad breaks down the sector into three distinct commercial markets: rockets, satellite imaging, and communications.
Raising a $26M Fund & Debating the CEO-Investor Responsibility 7548 Harry directly challenges the ethics and responsibility of an active $5B company CEO raising external LP capital for a side fund. Immad counters that his angel deal flow and early founder network directly fuel Mercury's customer acquisition.
The Future of Venture & the Public Market IPO Problem 6624 Harry references the Collison brothers' critiques of public markets and questions why successful tech companies would IPO today. Immad explains macro public market structural issues while advocating for liquid employee secondary options.

Statements from this episode (38)

Insight
Akhund: Entrepreneurs Find It Very Hard Not to Chase Highest Valuation
“I think it is very hard as an entrepreneur not to chase the highest valuation.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 10:31
Disclosure
Akhund: Mercury raised Series B at irrational 120x multiple, would do again
“You know, we did our series B at a 120 X, which was not rational. This is 20, 21, but we did it and I would do it again.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 10:42
Disclosure
Akhund: Strong Investment Bias Toward Serial Founders with Chips on Shoulders
“I mean, I just prefer serial founders. Like I have such a bias towards them. A serial founder with the chip on their shoulder. Oh yeah. A hundred percent.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 0:17
Disclosure
Akhund launches first $26M institutional fund with partner Yash Doshi
“Yeah, I finally closed on my first institutional fund. We raised twenty six million dollars. I'm partnering with kind of a friend of mine. Actually he invested in Mercury seven years ago. His name's Yash Doshi. He was at EQ two ventures, EQT ventures.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 1:02
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Akhund has made about 350 angel investments since 2016
“Yeah, I've been doing angel investing actually since 2016. So I've done about 350 investments.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 1:21
Assertion Partly supported
Akhund: Rappi hit unicorn status within a year of my seed investment
“Rappi was one of my first investments. Rappi is like a door dash for LADAM. Yeah. I literally invested and they did not talk to me again. Like they were just so busy and they grew that thing like crazy. And it was a unicorn within a year and a half. I invested…”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 3:06
Disclosure
Akhund: Andreessen Horowitz invested in Mercury's seed round based solely on a deck
“Andreessen Horowitz was our seed investor. So they invested like basically on a deck for Mercury”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 6:18
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Akhund: Sequoia Performed the Most Diligence Out of 20+ Series C Pitchers
“I pitched more than 20 funds as part of the CBC. Sequoia did the most work. Right. So like they did the most diligence with customers. They did the most work in the data room.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 8:31
Disclosure
Akhund: Sequoia Partner Reached 95% Conviction on Mercury in First Meeting
“Sonia is, is our kind of partner at Sequoia, and she said, actually, like, You know, she had conviction in that first meeting. She said, 95% she was in after, like, that initial meeting”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 9:08
Insight
Akhund: If you get a massive valuation, raise big but don't spend
“I think the mistake is to not raise enough money. Like every now and then someone gets like a, you know, like a million dollar valuation, they raised like fifty million. I think that's a mistake. Like you want to raise enough money at that high valuation. And …”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 11:07
Disclosure
Immad Akhund: Mercury had only 40 employees when raising $120M Series B
“When I raised a hundred twenty million, I was like, I don't know how I'm going to spend a hundred twenty million. Like we had like a 40 person company”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 11:24
Disclosure
Immad Akhund generated over a 30x return on pre-seed investment in Truebill
“I don't know if I should say the exact multiple, but more than, like, 30 x, ah, it was a great multiple, and it was a short time period, like, 2016 to 20, 21.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 13:34
Disclosure
Akhund: Dedicated fintech funds refused to invest in Mercury's seed round
“Even after Andreessen had come in with a lead check, it was so hard to get any fintech fund to invest alongside them because all fintech funds saw was like all the problems. They were like, this doesn't work for this reason and that reason. And I was like, I r…”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 16:51
Disclosure
Akhund: I passed on Scale AI because the founders were too young
“I saw scale AI and I was like, okay, you know, like good idea, but these people are so young. I think they were like 19 and 20 at the time or something. I was like, yeah, this is like, I was like, I think I could run this company better if I was doing it and I…”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 17:47
Insight
Akhund: Angel investors need at least 20 to 30 investments
“Doing like one or two is not going to make a difference. Like I think, so mostly I say to people, hey, if you have enough money, I mean, we're not talking about a ton of money, but if you have enough money to do at least 20 or 30 investments, that's when you s…”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 18:49
Insight
Akhund: At current seed valuations, investors must hunt for decacorns, not unicorns
“What we're really doing as seed investors is unicorn hunting, or I would say even, like, at these current evaluations, like, you're hunting for decacorns, and that doesn't, yeah, even if you're great at picking and you have a great network, et cetera you're no…”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 19:15
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Akhund: Seed investments in unicorns can return as low as 8x
“If your entry price is like, 20, 25 mil you know, after you get that dilution you know, unicorn, like, sometimes it's like, I've seen as low as, like, eight X return from, like, a seed stage investment to unicorn”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 19:42
Prediction Open · timeframe May 2040
Akhund: Airtable can reach a $50 billion valuation within 15 years
“I'm in it for the game as it was, and I do think, you know, these kind of compounders like Airtable you know, like there's companies I'm in where I'm like, okay, I can see this being a fifty billion dollar company, and if I just stick with it for, you know, ma…”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 22:04
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Akhund: AI labor-replacement software margins will collapse under market competition
“So yeah, the sell that like VCs get and entrepreneurs are making is, oh, we're replacing your labor costs. Therefore, we should charge a third of that. But the reality is, once you have a competitive market dynamic, like, the actual margins are going to compre…”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 24:35
Prediction Open · timeframe May 2030
Akhund: Mercury will employ more software engineers in five years despite AI
“I think we'll have more. Like, I think the maybe I'm contrarian about it a little bit, but to me, if my engineers get more productive, I'm gonna come up with more things to do. Like, I'm gonna have, like, so much stuff that I want to do.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 27:49
Assertion Supported
Mercury Credit Card Outpaces Competitors Among Own Customer Base
“Now Mercury for Mercury customers, Mercury credit card is bigger than all the other kind of corporate credit cards on the platform”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 29:15
Disclosure
Mercury Reaches Over 200,000 Total Customers
“We have. 200,000 plus customers.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 31:58
Assertion Supported
Akhund: 30% to 40% of all startups use Mercury
“30 to 40% of, like, all startups use Mercury.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 33:35
Prediction Open · timeframe May 2028
Akhund: New Fund Will Target 60 Non-Lead Startup Investments
“The idea is to invest into 60 companies and The reason that works is, you know, we're doing these non-lead checks.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 34:16
Opinion
Akhund: Avoiding AI Investments as the Sector Is Overhyped and Overvalued
“And, you know, I've ended up especially recently avoiding AI. I think AI is overhyped and overvalued.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 38:44
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Akhund claims most seed-stage AI startups lack real traction
“The vast majority of AI at seed out there does not have traction.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 40:40
Assertion Partly supported
Akhund: Space tech currently has only three functional markets
“There's, like, basically three existing markets in space tech. There's rockets, right? Like, getting things up and down, which obviously SpaceX dominates. There's taking pictures from space and That's actually, like, pretty big market, like, forty billion doll…”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 42:34
Disclosure
Akhund: I don't invest in biotech because founder claims are hard to evaluate
“I don't personally do bio because, you know, I speak to someone and they're like, we've cured cancer. And I speak to the next person and they're like, we've cured cancer. I'm like, I don't know.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 43:46
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Akhund: Founders still allocate me $150k after hotshot VCs close the round
“I've done rounds recently where the round is fully done with, like, some hotshot VC, and then I still get my one 50 K, and after the round is fully done so winning is, like, Easy right now.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 45:36
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Akhund Secured Core Allocations for $26M Fund in Three Weeks
“The actual, like, getting, you know, the core allocations done was probably, basically, like, three weeks.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 47:36
Disclosure
Fund of Funds Account for ~60% of Akhund's $26M Fund
“Yeah, fund of funds is like sixty-ish percent and then a bunch of kind of entrepreneurs and GPs is like the bulk of the rest of it.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 48:43
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Akhund: 100% of Mercury's first 30 alpha customers were my angel investments
“You know, actually like the, from the first 30 kind of alpha customers in Mercury, I think a hundred percent of them were like companies I'd invested in.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 50:17
Prediction Open · timeframe May 2035
Akhund: Multi-stage venture capital funds will inevitably go public
“It seems inevitable that a few of these multi-stage funds will IPO and be public companies, right? Like we had some stuff about GC doing it. Yeah. I think that's just going to happen.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 53:59
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Akhund: Mid-sized venture funds will struggle while small and mega funds thrive
“The people like me that are investing kind of smaller checks, like we'll do fine and the multistage ones will do fine. I don't know what happens in the middle. I think the middle will have more of an issue.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 54:56
Prediction Open · timeframe May 2030
Akhund: Mercury will eventually go public, but delay for five to seven years
“I want Mercury to be like a legacy long-term company. So being public is inevitable, but yeah, why do it today and not five years from now on, six years from now, seven years from now”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 55:40
Opinion
Immad Akhund: Thesis-driven funds are inferior to broad investing strategies
“I tend to, for deals I receive, I actually think thesis driven funds are not that great. Like I think it's better to have like a broad, broad investing strategy, but for deals that I receive, I kind of like thesis driven funds because I'm like, okay, they know…”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 59:11
Disclosure
Akhund: Mercury raised too much in its seed round, causing high dilution
“It's like we raised too much money in our seed round. Like we raised six million at like a twenty three million valuation. And like, this was because I was like, okay, fintech is hard. Like I want to have so much money that like I can go on for three years wit…”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 1:01:49
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Immad Akhund predicts full integration of banking and financial software in 10 years
“I think in 10 years time, it'll be obvious that like, oh yeah, your bank is really powerful, and it can do all of these things, and it's all fully integrated. So yeah, that's just a freaking huge opportunity”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 1:02:45

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